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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7537390">I agree with all of this.&nbsp; And I'll observe that isn't a commentary on the difference between rules per se, but on how they are presented.&nbsp; 5e tries very hard to be setting agnostic.&nbsp; Examples are Cleric Domains (instead of actual deities), general Paladin Oaths, and vaguely defined Warlock Patrons.An interesting counter-example is the UA patron &quot;Raven Queen&quot;.&nbsp; Even though I skipped 3e and 4e and so never heard of the Raven Queen (or didn't buy whatever supplement she appeared in, if it came earlier than that) that was immediately one of my favorite UA sub-classes.&nbsp; I loved the flavor.&nbsp; But...it didn't survive to Xanathar's.&nbsp; I guess &quot;Raven Queen&quot; was too specific.Of course, many things do survive.&nbsp; The iconic named spells are (mostly) still there, although absent of any explanation.&nbsp; The Artifacts in the DMG are great.The funny thing is I don't really have any interest in WotC settings...none of them have flavor I really like (or, in the case of FR, I don't like every flavor at once).&nbsp; But, yeah, I like these elements that offer a glimpse of history and lore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7537390"] I agree with all of this. And I'll observe that isn't a commentary on the difference between rules per se, but on how they are presented. 5e tries very hard to be setting agnostic. Examples are Cleric Domains (instead of actual deities), general Paladin Oaths, and vaguely defined Warlock Patrons. An interesting counter-example is the UA patron "Raven Queen". Even though I skipped 3e and 4e and so never heard of the Raven Queen (or didn't buy whatever supplement she appeared in, if it came earlier than that) that was immediately one of my favorite UA sub-classes. I loved the flavor. But...it didn't survive to Xanathar's. I guess "Raven Queen" was too specific. Of course, many things do survive. The iconic named spells are (mostly) still there, although absent of any explanation. The Artifacts in the DMG are great. The funny thing is I don't really have any interest in WotC settings...none of them have flavor I really like (or, in the case of FR, I don't like every flavor at once). But, yeah, I like these elements that offer a glimpse of history and lore. [/QUOTE]

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