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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 7537424" data-attributes="member: 158">I was going to say the same thing after the first post. In the DMG, surprise is measured as rolls on a d6; yet, some creatures in later books like Unearthed Arcana or Monster Manual 2 are surprised on a 3 in 8, or a 1 in 20! Not even a specific system uses consistent math with ITSELF. You roll a d20 for your weapon attacks, but percentile dice for brawling and wrestling - how do STR or DEX even play into that consistently? (Don't get me started on Weapon vs. Armor Type when most creatures didn't wear armor).It could be done, but there were so many haphazard things between different books, even for the same subsystems, that it was frustrating to interpret, to the point I just glossed over them at the time and made it up.This did work to some advantage, in that many systems DID work independently, and thus we had out 1E Rangers and our 2E Wizard Specialists fighting side by side, but &quot;nothing feeling like disconnected math&quot; wasn't my experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 7537424, member: 158"] I was going to say the same thing after the first post. In the DMG, surprise is measured as rolls on a d6; yet, some creatures in later books like Unearthed Arcana or Monster Manual 2 are surprised on a 3 in 8, or a 1 in 20! Not even a specific system uses consistent math with ITSELF. You roll a d20 for your weapon attacks, but percentile dice for brawling and wrestling - how do STR or DEX even play into that consistently? (Don't get me started on Weapon vs. Armor Type when most creatures didn't wear armor). It could be done, but there were so many haphazard things between different books, even for the same subsystems, that it was frustrating to interpret, to the point I just glossed over them at the time and made it up. This did work to some advantage, in that many systems DID work independently, and thus we had out 1E Rangers and our 2E Wizard Specialists fighting side by side, but "nothing feeling like disconnected math" wasn't my experience. [/QUOTE]

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