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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7538754" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>I disagree.</p><p></p><p>"You <strong>become</strong> Falstaff the Fighter..." (quote from the 1e PH) is true no matter whether Falstaff is the first character you've ever played or the 25th.  And Falstaff the 25th is in theory going to go into the field with exactly the same knowledge level as Falstaff the 1st; and to properly see the world through your character's eyes - and thus role-play your character - this needs to be reflected in how you think and play.</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but the rubbish bit is where a raw 1st-level character suddenly knows as much as her 7th-level predecessor without a legitimate in-game reason for such.</p><p></p><p>"Your character wouldn't know that"  is absolutely 100% valid as a DM response to a player using player knowledge that the character in the game-world couldn't have.</p><p></p><p>If the new 1st-level PC is joining a party of experienced adventurers that's different; the old hands could easily pass on what they've learned.  But if Falstaff the 25th is coming in along with a whole party of fellow raw 1st-level types then player knowledge simply has to take a hike.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7538754, member: 29398"] I disagree. "You [B]become[/B] Falstaff the Fighter..." (quote from the 1e PH) is true no matter whether Falstaff is the first character you've ever played or the 25th. And Falstaff the 25th is in theory going to go into the field with exactly the same knowledge level as Falstaff the 1st; and to properly see the world through your character's eyes - and thus role-play your character - this needs to be reflected in how you think and play. Sorry, but the rubbish bit is where a raw 1st-level character suddenly knows as much as her 7th-level predecessor without a legitimate in-game reason for such. "Your character wouldn't know that" is absolutely 100% valid as a DM response to a player using player knowledge that the character in the game-world couldn't have. If the new 1st-level PC is joining a party of experienced adventurers that's different; the old hands could easily pass on what they've learned. But if Falstaff the 25th is coming in along with a whole party of fellow raw 1st-level types then player knowledge simply has to take a hike. [/QUOTE]
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