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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 6362468" data-attributes="member: 779">I'm bringing up a typical example of the opposition to Psionics, one that will be validated if the Psion is too different from the established spellcaster patterns.&nbsp; The vast majority of those who don't want dispel magic to affect psionics typically are going for the Special Snowflake Syndrome.&nbsp; And while psionics has always been niche, I think the 3.5e implementation has been the most successful independent of any campaign settings.&nbsp; Think drastically different systems will last?&nbsp; Just where is Incarnum these days...?&nbsp; I doubt it even sold well at all, and it was maybe only addressed once outside of Magic of Incarnum back in the 3.5e era.&nbsp; It sort of vanished in 4e, and I don't think anyone at WotC is putting much consideration into bringing that back.It's also much easier to balance something like Ultrablast against Meteor Swarm if Ultrablast were a 9th level spell.&nbsp; Someone already pointed out just how different the Sorcerer and the Wizard are, and they're both spellcasting classes.&nbsp; They use similiar mechanics, and they're thematically different from each other.Now whether the psion uses spell slots just like the Sorcerer (power points are irrelevant since it'll be an option for all spellcasting classes), or some sort of variation of the spellcasting system like the Warlock.&nbsp; But the point is that psionics needs to be built into the standard system, and not be anything like 2e's mangled proficiency check system that was completely revised at least 3 times (Mental AC and Mental THAC0 anyone?), where everything doesn't match up at all with spells (a recipe for banishment of psionics from even more games), even if they're supposed to take up part of the Wizard's (or other similiar classes) niche.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 6362468, member: 779"] I'm bringing up a typical example of the opposition to Psionics, one that will be validated if the Psion is too different from the established spellcaster patterns. The vast majority of those who don't want dispel magic to affect psionics typically are going for the Special Snowflake Syndrome. And while psionics has always been niche, I think the 3.5e implementation has been the most successful independent of any campaign settings. Think drastically different systems will last? Just where is Incarnum these days...? I doubt it even sold well at all, and it was maybe only addressed once outside of Magic of Incarnum back in the 3.5e era. It sort of vanished in 4e, and I don't think anyone at WotC is putting much consideration into bringing that back. It's also much easier to balance something like Ultrablast against Meteor Swarm if Ultrablast were a 9th level spell. Someone already pointed out just how different the Sorcerer and the Wizard are, and they're both spellcasting classes. They use similiar mechanics, and they're thematically different from each other. Now whether the psion uses spell slots just like the Sorcerer (power points are irrelevant since it'll be an option for all spellcasting classes), or some sort of variation of the spellcasting system like the Warlock. But the point is that psionics needs to be built into the standard system, and not be anything like 2e's mangled proficiency check system that was completely revised at least 3 times (Mental AC and Mental THAC0 anyone?), where everything doesn't match up at all with spells (a recipe for banishment of psionics from even more games), even if they're supposed to take up part of the Wizard's (or other similiar classes) niche. [/QUOTE]

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