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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 6362814" data-attributes="member: 779">Yes I agree the Sorcerer is currently the best way to go about designing a Psion if you want one already.Many times I've also suggested that some of the features of the Warlock could be taken as a way of doing features for a Psion too.&nbsp; For Steeldragons idea that Psions could push themselves beyond limits.&nbsp; That sounds very similar to the Wilder class that popped up in 3.5e, an attempt to have the &quot;psionic equivalent of the sorcerer, if the psion is the psionic equivalent of the wizard&quot;.&nbsp; But it's certainly a good idea to take some of the Wilder concept and just drop it into the Psion, as I felt the Wilder was never a strong enough concept.The Psionic disciplines of Telepathy, Psychokinesis, Clairsentience, Psychometabolism, Metacreation and Psychoportation most certainly should be used for the different subclasses Psion.&nbsp; I never felt there being a justification of the Erudite, as it was an attempt to have a &quot;generalist&quot; psion, and currently there's no generalist Wizards either.The Battlemind / Psychic Warrior, could be it's own class or could just be a subclass of Fighter much like the Eldritch Knight.&nbsp; But if it's its own class, then it should probably double down on the psychic focus concept, which has to be done in a way that isn't too fiddly with the rules.Lurk and Soulknife while neat concepts could get grouped into other classes, like Rogue, Monk or Battlemind if it's an independent class.Ardent and Divine Mind should probably just respectively end up as the College of Empathy for Bards, and the Oath of the Divine Mind for Paladins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 6362814, member: 779"] Yes I agree the Sorcerer is currently the best way to go about designing a Psion if you want one already. Many times I've also suggested that some of the features of the Warlock could be taken as a way of doing features for a Psion too. For Steeldragons idea that Psions could push themselves beyond limits. That sounds very similar to the Wilder class that popped up in 3.5e, an attempt to have the "psionic equivalent of the sorcerer, if the psion is the psionic equivalent of the wizard". But it's certainly a good idea to take some of the Wilder concept and just drop it into the Psion, as I felt the Wilder was never a strong enough concept. The Psionic disciplines of Telepathy, Psychokinesis, Clairsentience, Psychometabolism, Metacreation and Psychoportation most certainly should be used for the different subclasses Psion. I never felt there being a justification of the Erudite, as it was an attempt to have a "generalist" psion, and currently there's no generalist Wizards either. The Battlemind / Psychic Warrior, could be it's own class or could just be a subclass of Fighter much like the Eldritch Knight. But if it's its own class, then it should probably double down on the psychic focus concept, which has to be done in a way that isn't too fiddly with the rules. Lurk and Soulknife while neat concepts could get grouped into other classes, like Rogue, Monk or Battlemind if it's an independent class. Ardent and Divine Mind should probably just respectively end up as the College of Empathy for Bards, and the Oath of the Divine Mind for Paladins. [/QUOTE]

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