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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9243352" data-attributes="member: 52734"><p>I prefer my monsters grouped*, but the 5E MM is schizophrenic in this regard - especially with putting all the "beasts" in a separate section in the back. I think having a pure alphabetic list in the front (as done in the recent Planescape MM) with the page and then having classic D&D's sorting method for the actual book would be what I want (so all the Demons are under one entry, all the Devils under another, all Giants in one place, etc.). </p><p></p><p>Going pure alphabetic would drive me nuts - demons/devils would be scattered all over the place, dragons would be showing up in clumps and all the "Giant" animals would be in one annoying big lump. However, if the MM is going to use groups, it might be smart if the MM was grouped by creature type - Aberrations, Beasts, Celestials*<strong>, Constructs, Elementals, Fiends*</strong>, Humanoids, Giants, Fey, Monstrosities**, Plants, Undead and then broken down by subgroups - Angels, Demons, Devils, Chromatic Dragons, Metallic Dragons, Genies, Golems, True Elementals, etc. But that almost goes back to the days of sorting spells by Class and then Level, instead of alphabetic. I'm not sure what the best answer really is - it's mostly preference.</p><p></p><p>As far as spells go, I do find the current method of actually spelling out spell attacks helpful, but I'd like to also see a sidebar with a suggested spell list (just the spell names & level) as a sidebar for those cases when the enemy is a long-running villain, ally or encounter and might have expanded abilities/effects that go beyond a few rounds of combat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>* I did get burned on this in 4E - spending an hour looking for the Tarrasque, to eventually find it under "Abomination" instead of under "Dragon" or simply "Tarrasque".</p><p></p><p>** I do wish we'd go back to Monstrous Beasts and Monstrous Humanoids, the Monstrous category is a bit too broad</p><p></p><p>*** We need an "Outsider" category for extraplanar creatures from the Outer planes that are neither Celestial or Fiendish - Modrons, Slaad and Rilmani are at least three examples I think would fall here</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 9243352, member: 52734"] I prefer my monsters grouped*, but the 5E MM is schizophrenic in this regard - especially with putting all the "beasts" in a separate section in the back. I think having a pure alphabetic list in the front (as done in the recent Planescape MM) with the page and then having classic D&D's sorting method for the actual book would be what I want (so all the Demons are under one entry, all the Devils under another, all Giants in one place, etc.). Going pure alphabetic would drive me nuts - demons/devils would be scattered all over the place, dragons would be showing up in clumps and all the "Giant" animals would be in one annoying big lump. However, if the MM is going to use groups, it might be smart if the MM was grouped by creature type - Aberrations, Beasts, Celestials*[B], Constructs, Elementals, Fiends*[/B], Humanoids, Giants, Fey, Monstrosities**, Plants, Undead and then broken down by subgroups - Angels, Demons, Devils, Chromatic Dragons, Metallic Dragons, Genies, Golems, True Elementals, etc. But that almost goes back to the days of sorting spells by Class and then Level, instead of alphabetic. I'm not sure what the best answer really is - it's mostly preference. As far as spells go, I do find the current method of actually spelling out spell attacks helpful, but I'd like to also see a sidebar with a suggested spell list (just the spell names & level) as a sidebar for those cases when the enemy is a long-running villain, ally or encounter and might have expanded abilities/effects that go beyond a few rounds of combat. * I did get burned on this in 4E - spending an hour looking for the Tarrasque, to eventually find it under "Abomination" instead of under "Dragon" or simply "Tarrasque". ** I do wish we'd go back to Monstrous Beasts and Monstrous Humanoids, the Monstrous category is a bit too broad *** We need an "Outsider" category for extraplanar creatures from the Outer planes that are neither Celestial or Fiendish - Modrons, Slaad and Rilmani are at least three examples I think would fall here [/QUOTE]
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