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<blockquote data-quote="Jamie Van Doren" data-source="post: 6634047" data-attributes="member: 6788536"><p>Hey, Ezel! Thanks for the insight.</p><p></p><p>I've made some changes based on your feedback - but I want to be careful about making some of the features too powerful.</p><p></p><p>I agree no holds bared isn't that powerful, and the unarmed strikes are more of a ribbon than anything (maybe all of no holds barred is a ribbon because it's so situational?). That's because gaining medium armor is a pretty big deal for this build. The other stuff for 3rd level rogues isn't that great (except for the Arcane Trickster because - spells) However, you no holds barred allows you to use your fist to attack as a bonus action assuming you have a light weapon in your main hand (per two weapon fighting rules). That said, I did change the build to gain sneak attack dice on unarmed strikes at level 9. I just felt at level three it made the unarmed attack more powerful than the monks.</p><p></p><p>I did up Kidinapper, so check that out. I liked the suggestion of using a bonus action for sneak attack on surprise when grappling. but raised the usefulness more than that. Again, it's situational, but it offers a little more versatility.</p><p></p><p>Menacing Presence and extortion have been reworded some to make it more clear and tighten them up.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure about your concerns with fight Dirty, because you can only use it once per long or short rest....</p><p></p><p>Also, made some minor changes to Vicious Killer. but to answer your question, the extra die of weapon damage is Only against those conditions.</p><p></p><p>Let me know your thought!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jamie Van Doren, post: 6634047, member: 6788536"] Hey, Ezel! Thanks for the insight. I've made some changes based on your feedback - but I want to be careful about making some of the features too powerful. I agree no holds bared isn't that powerful, and the unarmed strikes are more of a ribbon than anything (maybe all of no holds barred is a ribbon because it's so situational?). That's because gaining medium armor is a pretty big deal for this build. The other stuff for 3rd level rogues isn't that great (except for the Arcane Trickster because - spells) However, you no holds barred allows you to use your fist to attack as a bonus action assuming you have a light weapon in your main hand (per two weapon fighting rules). That said, I did change the build to gain sneak attack dice on unarmed strikes at level 9. I just felt at level three it made the unarmed attack more powerful than the monks. I did up Kidinapper, so check that out. I liked the suggestion of using a bonus action for sneak attack on surprise when grappling. but raised the usefulness more than that. Again, it's situational, but it offers a little more versatility. Menacing Presence and extortion have been reworded some to make it more clear and tighten them up. I'm not sure about your concerns with fight Dirty, because you can only use it once per long or short rest.... Also, made some minor changes to Vicious Killer. but to answer your question, the extra die of weapon damage is Only against those conditions. Let me know your thought! [/QUOTE]
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