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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5955029" data-attributes="member: 7006">That works for me too.The perception is automatically baked into Find/Remove Traps... you probably should have it baked into other skills as well.&nbsp; So Wilderness Lore includes finding someone who is hiding in the trees (since you know enough about forests to know where people would hide.)&nbsp; Heraldic Lore would include finding things within a castle (like secret doors, compartments in lockboxes etc.).&nbsp; Folklore would include perception within villages and hamlets, Animal Handling includes noticing animal sounds, behaviors etc.Remove Perception as it's own skill altogether, and instead include its use as part of the other skills a PC might have.* And on a similar note... perception would be included as part of the Dwarf's &quot;Stonecunning&quot; ability-- so the dwarf is better at noticing things underground.&nbsp; And thus I'd change out the Elf's &quot;Keen Senses&quot; ability (which right now applies to noticing EVERYTHING, which is ridiculously powerful) to a similar ability called &quot;Treecunning&quot;... where perception within the forests would be included in it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5955029, member: 7006"] That works for me too. The perception is automatically baked into Find/Remove Traps... you probably should have it baked into other skills as well. So Wilderness Lore includes finding someone who is hiding in the trees (since you know enough about forests to know where people would hide.) Heraldic Lore would include finding things within a castle (like secret doors, compartments in lockboxes etc.). Folklore would include perception within villages and hamlets, Animal Handling includes noticing animal sounds, behaviors etc. Remove Perception as it's own skill altogether, and instead include its use as part of the other skills a PC might have. * And on a similar note... perception would be included as part of the Dwarf's "Stonecunning" ability-- so the dwarf is better at noticing things underground. And thus I'd change out the Elf's "Keen Senses" ability (which right now applies to noticing EVERYTHING, which is ridiculously powerful) to a similar ability called "Treecunning"... where perception within the forests would be included in it. [/QUOTE]

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