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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tales and Chronicles" data-source="post: 8765327" data-attributes="member: 6871653">There was an old UA about making players roll all dice, might want to look that up, at least the part about saving throws. Then you'd just have to decide if you want 6 NADs or go back to the 3 NADs of 3e and 4e.Or you may want to treat the Ability Score + Prof as the NADs, so rolling Entangle with d20+Power+prof (aka casting stat) vs an Ogre would require to beat a Strength Defense of 21 or they'd be Restrained (save ends). If a creature enters the zone for the duration, you can use your reaction to make another spell attack roll against it etc. It makes it easier to target the weakest defense of a monster...if you have the right spell, putting an extra layer of preparation for you spells. Ongoing effect would either stay as is ''saving throws using a precise stat'' or go back to 4e's flat d20.It could be fun, IMO.</blockquote>