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<blockquote data-quote="Jon Gilliam" data-source="post: 8037140" data-attributes="member: 6920404"><p>Here's the definition of Stealth from the PHB (emphasis added): "conceal yourself from enemies, slink past guards, <strong><em>slip away without being noticed</em></strong>, or sneak up on someone without being seen or heard." I agree that AoO are an issue .... I've been discussing with the other players online this morning also, and that came up. We've adjusted the definition to account for that, as well as the idea that being Stealthy is close enough to the "circumstances appropriate for hiding" that it should fall under the jurisdiction that the DM decides that (as per the PHB errata under Hiding).</p><p></p><p>Newest:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Definition of "Being Stealthy"</em></strong> : Being stealthy represents the potential to attempt to move into hiding undetected by opponents after doing a Stealth skill check. Since the DM decides the circumstances that are appropriate for hiding, that includes the circumstances that are appropriate to being stealthy. In any case, you are no longer stealthy if you come adjacent to an opponent when who will be capable of making an opportunity attack against you.</p><p></p><p>FAQ:</p><p><strong><em>Are being Hidden and being Stealthy the same thing? </em></strong>No, because Stealth represents the potential to attempt to move into hiding without being detected. For example, say a non-adjacent monster has an action prepared to do a ranged attack against any opponent that moves, and that you are currently unhidden and visible to that monster. Let's say you first tell the DM you'd like to be Stealthy, the DM determines the circumstances are appropriate for stealth and calls for a Stealth check, and then you start to move to a hiding place. The monster's prepared action will only trigger if their passive Perception equals or bests your Stealth check. If you instead move towards a hiding place first without doing the Stealth check, the monster's prepared action would trigger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jon Gilliam, post: 8037140, member: 6920404"] Here's the definition of Stealth from the PHB (emphasis added): "conceal yourself from enemies, slink past guards, [B][I]slip away without being noticed[/I][/B], or sneak up on someone without being seen or heard." I agree that AoO are an issue .... I've been discussing with the other players online this morning also, and that came up. We've adjusted the definition to account for that, as well as the idea that being Stealthy is close enough to the "circumstances appropriate for hiding" that it should fall under the jurisdiction that the DM decides that (as per the PHB errata under Hiding). Newest: [B][I]Definition of "Being Stealthy"[/I][/B] : Being stealthy represents the potential to attempt to move into hiding undetected by opponents after doing a Stealth skill check. Since the DM decides the circumstances that are appropriate for hiding, that includes the circumstances that are appropriate to being stealthy. In any case, you are no longer stealthy if you come adjacent to an opponent when who will be capable of making an opportunity attack against you. FAQ: [B][I]Are being Hidden and being Stealthy the same thing? [/I][/B]No, because Stealth represents the potential to attempt to move into hiding without being detected. For example, say a non-adjacent monster has an action prepared to do a ranged attack against any opponent that moves, and that you are currently unhidden and visible to that monster. Let's say you first tell the DM you'd like to be Stealthy, the DM determines the circumstances are appropriate for stealth and calls for a Stealth check, and then you start to move to a hiding place. The monster's prepared action will only trigger if their passive Perception equals or bests your Stealth check. If you instead move towards a hiding place first without doing the Stealth check, the monster's prepared action would trigger. [/QUOTE]
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