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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8040104" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Close ... but no cigar. I think that this is meant to be one of the things that makes an assassin an assassin. The assassin of course <em>does have </em>advantage. The assassin can do it on their own, but the rogue needs just that bit more help (like an ally)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They can't - and no one ever claimed they could. Sneak Attack is a specific rogue class ability. Everyone can exploit a foe's distraction, but a rogue gets specific bonuses for doing it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that a rogue's Sneak Attack <em>isn't </em>assumed to apply during a surprise round. The assassin on the other hand can pull some really interesting shenanigans because they don't need to interact directly with the hiding rules to get their super-sneak attack off. For example 80' away and round two corners, taking advantage of dash and a thrown dagger. And assassins but not rogues getting serious danger from pretending to be e.g. a drunk or a civilian or even committing murder on the dance floor is not something I have a problem with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8040104, member: 87792"] Close ... but no cigar. I think that this is meant to be one of the things that makes an assassin an assassin. The assassin of course [I]does have [/I]advantage. The assassin can do it on their own, but the rogue needs just that bit more help (like an ally) They can't - and no one ever claimed they could. Sneak Attack is a specific rogue class ability. Everyone can exploit a foe's distraction, but a rogue gets specific bonuses for doing it. Except that a rogue's Sneak Attack [I]isn't [/I]assumed to apply during a surprise round. The assassin on the other hand can pull some really interesting shenanigans because they don't need to interact directly with the hiding rules to get their super-sneak attack off. For example 80' away and round two corners, taking advantage of dash and a thrown dagger. And assassins but not rogues getting serious danger from pretending to be e.g. a drunk or a civilian or even committing murder on the dance floor is not something I have a problem with. [/QUOTE]
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