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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8796501" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>[SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>This presumes that all <em>negative</em> votes go in the same direction. Until there are only two options left, though, it doesn't need to be like that, and in fact almost never <em>will</em> be like that.</p><p></p><p>E.g., if there are six options, and downvotes are spread about equally across all six, but say 40% of all upvotes go to Option A and the rest are split evenly amongst the other five options (meaning they get 12% apiece), we can get something like the following after 50 votes:</p><p>A: 20+20-20 = 22</p><p>all others: 20+6-16 = 6</p><p></p><p>Note that this <em>is</em> assuming that Option A gets more downvotes than any other option, getting 20% and the others getting 16%. But because it's getting 2/5 upvotes but only 1/5th of downvotes, Option A has perfectly held its own, and thus (comparatively) gained a LOT of ground; being at 20 when everyone else is at 6 is quite an achievement in one of these threads. For most of the race, you do not need to have the vast majority of people supporting one option for that option to keep it afloat, you just need enough to counteract that option's <em>share</em> of the downvotes. Sort of like that old adage about running from zombies: you don't need to be the <em>fastest</em> to win, you just need to be faster than the <em>slowest</em>.</p><p></p><p>Of course, the above example is also fictitious because it presumes (near-)equal spread of downvotes across all options, which is very unlikely. It's much more likely that specific options will get dogpiled first. It is, of course, possible that Fighter could get dogpiled early, but my expectation is that Mystic and Artificer will be the first to die, probably in that order too, followed shortly thereafter by Warlock, Sorcerer, and Ranger.</p><p></p><p>My predictions in list form:</p><p>First blood - Mystic, Artificer</p><p>Early kills - Ranger, Warlock, Sorcerer, maybe Bard (if not here, then swap with Monk)</p><p>Middle fodder - Druid, Paladin, Barbarian, maybe Monk</p><p>Likely finalists - Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, <em>maybe</em> Wizard (it could die a lot earlier if a dogpile occurs)</p><p></p><p>If I were a betting man--which I am <strong>not</strong>, to be clear--I would legit place a bet that Fighter or Cleric ends up being the final winner. Because, again, one has a <em>sufficiently</em> large cadre of folks dedicated to it, which both reduces the possibility of dogpiling and pushes scores up early on, and the other is blandly inoffensive.</p><p></p><p>Time will tell whether I eat my words or not. But I would be very surprised if things don't cash out broadly similar to the above.[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8796501, member: 6790260"] [SPOILER] This presumes that all [I]negative[/I] votes go in the same direction. Until there are only two options left, though, it doesn't need to be like that, and in fact almost never [I]will[/I] be like that. E.g., if there are six options, and downvotes are spread about equally across all six, but say 40% of all upvotes go to Option A and the rest are split evenly amongst the other five options (meaning they get 12% apiece), we can get something like the following after 50 votes: A: 20+20-20 = 22 all others: 20+6-16 = 6 Note that this [I]is[/I] assuming that Option A gets more downvotes than any other option, getting 20% and the others getting 16%. But because it's getting 2/5 upvotes but only 1/5th of downvotes, Option A has perfectly held its own, and thus (comparatively) gained a LOT of ground; being at 20 when everyone else is at 6 is quite an achievement in one of these threads. For most of the race, you do not need to have the vast majority of people supporting one option for that option to keep it afloat, you just need enough to counteract that option's [I]share[/I] of the downvotes. Sort of like that old adage about running from zombies: you don't need to be the [I]fastest[/I] to win, you just need to be faster than the [I]slowest[/I]. Of course, the above example is also fictitious because it presumes (near-)equal spread of downvotes across all options, which is very unlikely. It's much more likely that specific options will get dogpiled first. It is, of course, possible that Fighter could get dogpiled early, but my expectation is that Mystic and Artificer will be the first to die, probably in that order too, followed shortly thereafter by Warlock, Sorcerer, and Ranger. My predictions in list form: First blood - Mystic, Artificer Early kills - Ranger, Warlock, Sorcerer, maybe Bard (if not here, then swap with Monk) Middle fodder - Druid, Paladin, Barbarian, maybe Monk Likely finalists - Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, [I]maybe[/I] Wizard (it could die a lot earlier if a dogpile occurs) If I were a betting man--which I am [B]not[/B], to be clear--I would legit place a bet that Fighter or Cleric ends up being the final winner. Because, again, one has a [I]sufficiently[/I] large cadre of folks dedicated to it, which both reduces the possibility of dogpiling and pushes scores up early on, and the other is blandly inoffensive. Time will tell whether I eat my words or not. But I would be very surprised if things don't cash out broadly similar to the above.[/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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