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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9774447" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Ah beans….</p><p></p><p>Okay I am resisting the powerful urge to argue about 4e powers. </p><p></p><p>But I do think that if you take specific 4e powers and present them like 5e Battlemaster manuevers or spells, depending on the specific power, you are already a lot to the way to fixing the feel of them. For some reason, if a power has the same format and says, “1[w]+dex” on a hit and then describes a rider, that is perceived as more similar to “1[w]+dex+5” than it would be if written out as a sentence. Battlemaster manuevers simply are not more diverse in effect than 4e encounter powers. They just feel that way to some folks because of the format. </p><p></p><p>That said, 100% agree about needing to know more powers than you have power uses. It’s a huge improvement in 5e. </p><p></p><p>One option is to use the format of Battlemaster manuevers, monk discipline features, or Star Wars force powers, depending on the class. Don’t use the same format, just keep them in the power scale of encounter resources. </p><p></p><p>But I do think that encounter focused class variants work great as an idea, and don’t need to be presented as “restricted”.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9774447, member: 6704184"] Ah beans…. Okay I am resisting the powerful urge to argue about 4e powers. But I do think that if you take specific 4e powers and present them like 5e Battlemaster manuevers or spells, depending on the specific power, you are already a lot to the way to fixing the feel of them. For some reason, if a power has the same format and says, “1[w]+dex” on a hit and then describes a rider, that is perceived as more similar to “1[w]+dex+5” than it would be if written out as a sentence. Battlemaster manuevers simply are not more diverse in effect than 4e encounter powers. They just feel that way to some folks because of the format. That said, 100% agree about needing to know more powers than you have power uses. It’s a huge improvement in 5e. One option is to use the format of Battlemaster manuevers, monk discipline features, or Star Wars force powers, depending on the class. Don’t use the same format, just keep them in the power scale of encounter resources. But I do think that encounter focused class variants work great as an idea, and don’t need to be presented as “restricted”. [/QUOTE]
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