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<blockquote data-quote="kinem" data-source="post: 5812238" data-attributes="member: 24234"><p>There are two problems that I see with 'staying positive'.</p><p></p><p>1. It's important to say what we don't want to see for there to be any chance of getting an overall game that we like.</p><p></p><p>For example, suppose that chicken and shrimp are being considered to add to a Ceaser salad that we will all eat. I like chicken OK, but I can't stand shrimp; perhaps I am allergic to it. I need to be able to say "No shrimp!", not just "add chicken". There is at best a thin line between doing this and 'going negative' on shrimp.</p><p></p><p>2. Frankly, IMO 3.X was <em>not</em> a very good rule set. It had many broken bits, many aspects that led to a less than optimal playing experience (such as problems with skills), combats that were not interesting enough, and too steep of a power curve.</p><p></p><p>It was BADLY in need of a MAJOR overhaul.</p><p></p><p>It was also the best edition of D&D ever, and I really like playing D&D.</p><p></p><p>Now, given those facts, <em>if that's all I said</em>, you might think that taking some bits from 4E might please me. But I STRONGLY dislike almost <em>EVERY</em> change from 3.X to 4E. 4E went in very much the wrong direction for me. Compared to 4E, 3.X was WAY better for me. How would you know that's my preference, if I don't mention it? Sure, I could try to say what I would like to ADD to the game, but that's much more vague and you would really never know that adding in bits from 4E would displease me unless I MENTION it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kinem, post: 5812238, member: 24234"] There are two problems that I see with 'staying positive'. 1. It's important to say what we don't want to see for there to be any chance of getting an overall game that we like. For example, suppose that chicken and shrimp are being considered to add to a Ceaser salad that we will all eat. I like chicken OK, but I can't stand shrimp; perhaps I am allergic to it. I need to be able to say "No shrimp!", not just "add chicken". There is at best a thin line between doing this and 'going negative' on shrimp. 2. Frankly, IMO 3.X was [I]not[/I] a very good rule set. It had many broken bits, many aspects that led to a less than optimal playing experience (such as problems with skills), combats that were not interesting enough, and too steep of a power curve. It was BADLY in need of a MAJOR overhaul. It was also the best edition of D&D ever, and I really like playing D&D. Now, given those facts, [I]if that's all I said[/I], you might think that taking some bits from 4E might please me. But I STRONGLY dislike almost [I]EVERY[/I] change from 3.X to 4E. 4E went in very much the wrong direction for me. Compared to 4E, 3.X was WAY better for me. How would you know that's my preference, if I don't mention it? Sure, I could try to say what I would like to ADD to the game, but that's much more vague and you would really never know that adding in bits from 4E would displease me unless I MENTION it. [/QUOTE]
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