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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6310034" data-attributes="member: 92511">STANDARD/CORE RACESHuman [standard racial benefits, sub-races with alternate benefits optional]--Urbane--TribalElf [racial benefits dependent on sub-race]--High--Wood--Drow [apparently. bleh]Dwarf [racial benefits dependent on sub-race]--Hill--MountainHalfling [standard racial benefits, sub-races with alternate benefits optional]--Hairfoot--Stout--TallfellowOPTIONAL RACESGnome [racial benefits dependent on sub-race]--Forest--Rock[svirfneblin a.k.a. "Deep Gnomes" have no business being a PC race unless the entire campaign is taking place in a setting's underdark/world. They have no desire and/or culture/society to be had on the surface world -much like duerger or drow, though I have additional issues with them.] Hybrids [racial benefits dependent on sub-race]--Half-Elf--Half-Orc[--Half-Ogre, too, if I were calling the shots]Dragonborn [racial benefits dependent on sub-race] (Since they are going to be there. again blech.)--Metallic, the race born of dragons (or created by their gods or whatever) that has a society/culture and perpetuates itself (4e style, I guess).--Chromatic, the creatures caused by curse or specifically "blessed" or otherwise bred in some deliberate fashion as servants/soldiers/etc... (kinda shades of old school "abishai" [sp?]).--Half-dragon: the dragon-blooded/"-born" individuals bred with a non-dragon race. Not a "Hybrid" race as those are "Human + Other." Half-dragons are "Dragon + Other." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I totally agree with those who think if you're presenting a playable as PCs "lower-planes" race...and likely will include elemental-plane races ("inner-planes" if you want to count shadow plane folks) at some later period, there is no defensible reason not to have a PC "upper planes" race. I would quite agree with "Planetouched" being the Race with "Aasimar/Genasi/Tiefling" -or even just "Upper/Elemental/Lower Plane" being the sub-race options. HOWever, since we know that Tieflings are going to be included out the gate and Aasimar/Genasi/other "Planetouched" are not, then they have to be considered in the same "Race/sub-races" structure as everyone else. So...Tiefling [racial benefits dependent on sub-race]--Infernal, 4e style "race".--Fiendish (i.e. any "lower plane" critter blood), Planescape style "individuals".</blockquote>

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