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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8022338" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Actually, it is off IMO. (and FWIW, any world record is pretty superhuman to me LOL! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>90 ft/round is 15 ft/second or 21.9 sec for a 100-meter, which is really slow actually for running (i.e. move + double dash). The world record 100-meter holder would be moving 205 feet / round (a speed of nearly 70). If you assume Bolt is an 18th-level Monk with Mobility, using step of the wind twice, that would do it. Personally, I am okay with that myself I suppose...</p><p></p><p>Now, your example. (I am not sure what you are doing with some of your numbers...) Anyway, 1000 m = 3281 ft.</p><p>3281 ft/ 131 seconds = 25 ft / second or 150 ft/ round (25 x 6 seconds), which would be a speed of 50 (150 / 3 for move and double-dash).</p><p>50 is MUCH higher than 30, so I would consider <em>that </em>impressive. Maybe a Human 2nd-level Monk/ 2nd-level Rogue with Mobility? Ok, so getting that speed is not hard I suppose...</p><p></p><p>Also, [USER=59057]@UngeheuerLich[/USER] must be suggesting a house-rule (a good one IMO), but sticking to the RAW...</p><p></p><p>With a CON 20, you don't make any checks for 8 rounds. After 5 rounds (on average), you would be making checks with disadvantage, so you would fail another check in about 3 rounds (again, on average). Meaning after 16 rounds, your speed would be half. At 90 ft/round, that is only 1440 feet, less than half of the 1000-meters (3281 feet).</p><p></p><p>So, let's assume a speed 50 (however you get it). Monk won't work, because you would run out of Ki, so let's go with the Human Monk/Rogue 2/2. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> With a CON 20, such a character would fail their 4th check around round 22, just as they finished the race. So, plausible I guess.</p><p></p><p>But it means in another 3 rounds (barely 2.5 minutes), their speed would be 0 and done. So, the 38 rounds for the world-record mile would pretty much never happen (speed would be about 45 as well even if it could happen in RAW).</p><p></p><p>Now, all of this is with a CON 20 (not normal at all) and being about to double-dash a lot. It also assumes a rogue's double-dash doesn't count as two uses, but it should really, making all of this even more extreme.</p><p></p><p>FWIW, I ran a 11.5-sec 100-meter and a 4:52 minute mile when I competed in T&F.</p><p>For that 100-meter, my speed would have to be over 57, assuming I was moving and doube-dashing.</p><p>That mile was a speed total of over 108 feet per round for over 48 rounds. I would have had my speed reduced to 0 long before I finished and my CON was certainly not 20 (maybe 14 I would guess since I was running a lot).</p><p></p><p>Finally, this assumes you don't want a game where your PCs can do things beyond what people can do IRL. IME, a lot of players want PCs who can do more than is possible IRL.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8022338, member: 6987520"] Actually, it is off IMO. (and FWIW, any world record is pretty superhuman to me LOL! :) ) 90 ft/round is 15 ft/second or 21.9 sec for a 100-meter, which is really slow actually for running (i.e. move + double dash). The world record 100-meter holder would be moving 205 feet / round (a speed of nearly 70). If you assume Bolt is an 18th-level Monk with Mobility, using step of the wind twice, that would do it. Personally, I am okay with that myself I suppose... Now, your example. (I am not sure what you are doing with some of your numbers...) Anyway, 1000 m = 3281 ft. 3281 ft/ 131 seconds = 25 ft / second or 150 ft/ round (25 x 6 seconds), which would be a speed of 50 (150 / 3 for move and double-dash). 50 is MUCH higher than 30, so I would consider [I]that [/I]impressive. Maybe a Human 2nd-level Monk/ 2nd-level Rogue with Mobility? Ok, so getting that speed is not hard I suppose... Also, [USER=59057]@UngeheuerLich[/USER] must be suggesting a house-rule (a good one IMO), but sticking to the RAW... With a CON 20, you don't make any checks for 8 rounds. After 5 rounds (on average), you would be making checks with disadvantage, so you would fail another check in about 3 rounds (again, on average). Meaning after 16 rounds, your speed would be half. At 90 ft/round, that is only 1440 feet, less than half of the 1000-meters (3281 feet). So, let's assume a speed 50 (however you get it). Monk won't work, because you would run out of Ki, so let's go with the Human Monk/Rogue 2/2. :) With a CON 20, such a character would fail their 4th check around round 22, just as they finished the race. So, plausible I guess. But it means in another 3 rounds (barely 2.5 minutes), their speed would be 0 and done. So, the 38 rounds for the world-record mile would pretty much never happen (speed would be about 45 as well even if it could happen in RAW). Now, all of this is with a CON 20 (not normal at all) and being about to double-dash a lot. It also assumes a rogue's double-dash doesn't count as two uses, but it should really, making all of this even more extreme. FWIW, I ran a 11.5-sec 100-meter and a 4:52 minute mile when I competed in T&F. For that 100-meter, my speed would have to be over 57, assuming I was moving and doube-dashing. That mile was a speed total of over 108 feet per round for over 48 rounds. I would have had my speed reduced to 0 long before I finished and my CON was certainly not 20 (maybe 14 I would guess since I was running a lot). Finally, this assumes you don't want a game where your PCs can do things beyond what people can do IRL. IME, a lot of players want PCs who can do more than is possible IRL. [/QUOTE]
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