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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8991431" data-attributes="member: 5889">So is Asmodeus worth a CR 29?Obviously CRs of that caliber are hard to gauge. For one, I think of it this way. A group of 4 CR20 characters should stand NO chance of beating a CR 29....unless they have some major help in the form of specialty equipment, knowledge of a special weakness, etc. In other words, if a party of 4 CR 20 characters gets cocky and knocks on asmodeus' door without specifically preparing for him....they should get obliterated. And even if they did prepare for him....they probably should get obliterated. Realistically it should take like 8 20th level characters to take him down....maybe<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Does this statblock do the job?The big thing is Asmodeus' defenses.1) Spell Resistance: With +19 with advantage saves, even my optimized characers with like DC 23 saves aren't likely to get through it, and of course he has legendary action to knock out conditions that actually do affect him. This of course assumes that a creature even gets a spell off, as counter spell at will is no joke.2) Ranged Resistance: Diabolic influence gives Asmodeus effective immunity from 1 ranged attack per round, so unless your a fighter archer a good portion of your damage will get soaked up. And of course if you do an alpha strike, one of your fellow party members may get a rude surprise.So realistically if you're not in melee with Asmodeus you're probably not doing much against him.Offense Wise: Asmodeus doesn't actually bring all that much damage for such a high CR. Probably his best weapon is the hell-fire pillar, not for the damage itself but being able to double fire damage against unprotected creatures for the rest of the fight, that's where the money's at. But yeah with various protections a party might have I don't expect them to take a ton of damage from Asmodeus.Overall I think Asmodeus fits the bill....but it might be a boring frustrating fight for the party. We have an enemy where if your a spellcaster you may be worthless, if your a ranged person your nigh worthless, and asmodeus brings a lot of control effects (for example I would probably try to stun any melee guys that actually got to me with his slam to take out their damage....the only real damage I actually am concerned about). So I think it would turn into a very long fight with lots of the party being useless for a good portion.</blockquote>

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