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5E -- Viable Bladesinger Multiclass Options?
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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7889324" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>Between a barbarian/monk, ranger, paladin and rogue, your party has a lot of martial capability, so I think leaning heavily into being a support-focused caster makes sense. Particularly if the first player goes with monk, there's already going to be a lot of mobile acrobatic business going on, and so it could be that bladesinger isn't the best choice of wizard subclass, if only to give others a greater sense of uniqueness. </p><p></p><p>If you are really worried about the party not having enough face capability, you could even opt for being a charisma-based caster and not doing wizard (bards are great support characters, especially in larger parties, and can do a lot to help the others shine). And a lore bard in particular can pick up a ton of proficiencies, and use that 6th level magical secrets to fill a gap in the party (e.g., fireball). I personally like lore bard for you more than I like shadow sorcerer, simply for versatility reasons.</p><p></p><p>If you go with bard, would you consider (and would you be allowed) to be an eladrin instead of a moon elf? (Mainly for the CHA bonus, since it sucks to have to start with a +2 in your casting stat; but the Misty Step 1/SR is also great.)</p><p></p><p>With only one other full caster in the party, I would recommend against multiclassing, at least before level 5. You really want to be able to cast the highest level spells possible when needed.</p><p></p><p>All of that said, I wouldn't think that posing as an elf would be too tall an order for a human rogue, and you also have the paladin, so just sticking with wizard seems like a solid plan too. You might consider diviner instead of bladesinger: being able to toss a low portent roll onto a key NPC's insight check (or a high one onto the rogue's deception check) is also a good way to be an "assistant face", not to mention all the other uses for portent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7889324, member: 6966824"] Between a barbarian/monk, ranger, paladin and rogue, your party has a lot of martial capability, so I think leaning heavily into being a support-focused caster makes sense. Particularly if the first player goes with monk, there's already going to be a lot of mobile acrobatic business going on, and so it could be that bladesinger isn't the best choice of wizard subclass, if only to give others a greater sense of uniqueness. If you are really worried about the party not having enough face capability, you could even opt for being a charisma-based caster and not doing wizard (bards are great support characters, especially in larger parties, and can do a lot to help the others shine). And a lore bard in particular can pick up a ton of proficiencies, and use that 6th level magical secrets to fill a gap in the party (e.g., fireball). I personally like lore bard for you more than I like shadow sorcerer, simply for versatility reasons. If you go with bard, would you consider (and would you be allowed) to be an eladrin instead of a moon elf? (Mainly for the CHA bonus, since it sucks to have to start with a +2 in your casting stat; but the Misty Step 1/SR is also great.) With only one other full caster in the party, I would recommend against multiclassing, at least before level 5. You really want to be able to cast the highest level spells possible when needed. All of that said, I wouldn't think that posing as an elf would be too tall an order for a human rogue, and you also have the paladin, so just sticking with wizard seems like a solid plan too. You might consider diviner instead of bladesinger: being able to toss a low portent roll onto a key NPC's insight check (or a high one onto the rogue's deception check) is also a good way to be an "assistant face", not to mention all the other uses for portent. [/QUOTE]
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