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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hillsy7" data-source="post: 7249739" data-attributes="member: 6689191">1) If your only measure of "optimization" is DPR, give up now. There will always be an optimal DPR output. The greataxe does a lot of damage in the hands of a Barbarian. But he can't have a shield. A shield increases AC, and therefore survivability so a 'battleaxe and board' Barb is harder to hit, and therefore Reckless attack is better for him. A dual handaxe barbarian is badass for 2 reasons - 1 he gets rage damage on all his attacks, and 2, because he already uses his offhand attack for a third attack, the Totem path is highly beneficial giving awesome goodies while keeping 3 attacks (Take duel wielder feat and Double battleaxe baby!)They all play differently even though they have different DPR values. Don't blame the build of the game for players only thinking about damage when there's other measures of optimization.2) I am a half-Orc wizard with 18 STR and carry a maul (just in case I'm silenced). I'm big, strong and violent, but I'm trained in magic. However, I do 1d4+4 (6.5) when I clock people. Next to me is a Gnome Barbarian with 18 STR, he's carrying a small club, he does 1d12+4 (10.5), nearly double the damage....How?3) Conan (20 STR, lvl 12) already does almost the same amount of basic damage with a warhammer (4.5+5+3=12.5) as a greataxe(6.5+5+3=14.5), as a longsword, as a mace, as a flail, as in fact any non-light weapon. And when he goes down to a handaxe (3.5+5+3=11.5), he can carry two!.....that's not a particularly big swing in damage.4) Most (Optimized) Barbarians choose a greataxe because of the Great Weapon Master feats synergy with permanent advantage (Reckless Attack), and the Crit advantage over the greatsword.5) Look - if you don't like the way Attack Actions work in D&D, then by all means go and play. You don't need to justify it by coming up with some odd reason concerning Conan's golf bag of weapons and DPR optimisers. Just rewrite the rules you want to and playtest to your hearts content, or at least be brazen about your intentions in the first place.</blockquote>

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