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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8300059" data-attributes="member: 6803643">This is why I'm in favour of the widening of classes. Maybe it would be better to not use the term Bard or Druid or Paladin because they held very specific cultural meanings. I'm in favour of renaming Paladin to Knight, for example. But the class names as they are are snippy snippy and not very likely to offend many folks.Agreed.Yeah I was trying to create a patron name that referred to the God and the Goddess of Wicca without getting lengthy and without people asking why this isn't a Cleric.I'd argue that the Sorcerer discovered its identity in 4e when it could no longer be the Nonvancian mage. I think that the mechanics could better push this by making its casting all via Sorcery Points (which stack relatively nicely with the variant rule: Spell points in the DM's Guide, fi you want to combine them with house rules. But narratively the Sorcerer fills a niche that other casters do not, that of a character that did not "earn" their powers but came into it and now has to figure out what they're going to do with it. The inheritors of magic. The results of a science experiment gone horribly right. "Everything special about you came out of a bottle." Who is Mewtwo and why does he exist?I also think that Psions are essentially Sorcerers in this way, but we'd have to be more liberal with letting players swap out their primary ability scores to make a full on Int-focused Psion be represented by a spell-points variant Sorcerer with the subclass of Aberrant Mind.It was in 4e's Heroes of the Elemental Chaos. You'd probably be making it with a elemental prince or a primordial or titan rather than the element of fire or earth itself. There's significant overlap with The Genie Patron, but it's distinct enough in genre tropes and concepts to say that while Djinn and Efreet COULD be your patron for the Elemental Pact, they're better represented by the Genie Pact.Why thank you. I think the tribulations are a big part of narrative. Enduring despite the odds or with love and grief co-mingled.These are perfectly acceptable takes. My point was more that different writers have taken different perspectives on them, and that's ALL OKAY. It just speaks to the malleability of the concepts and why saying this is the only true Witch class is a problem when a good portion of witch fiction deals with what the Warlock or Wizard or Sorcerer classes are playing with, etc.Agreed.</blockquote>

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