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<blockquote data-quote="Evil DM" data-source="post: 2585453" data-attributes="member: 23108"><p>Hej folks,</p><p></p><p>I have a question about the 5ft. step:</p><p></p><p>According to the SRD the 5ft. step belongs to <em>Not an Action</em>, that means: <em> They literally don’t take any time at all to do <strong>and are considered an inherent part of doing something else</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>At first this seems to fit with the readied action (if you do not ready a move action - yes). </p><p>Example:</p><p>You are standing next to a hostile wizard and ready a blow if the wizards starts to cast a spell. </p><p>The wizard takes a 5ft. step back to avoid a AoO - okay, nothin happens.</p><p>He starts to cast his spell - trigger!! You take a 5ft. step and close in to make your attack.</p><p>This seems to be rather simple - okay.</p><p></p><p>But now, how far does this <strong>and are considered an inherent part of doing something else</strong> go?</p><p>As also written in the SRD (to come to my topic) <em>In general, speaking is a free action that you can perform even when it isn’t your turn</em>.</p><p>Does this mean, that you can perfom a 5ft. step as part of <em>speaking</em> even if it is not yourn turn?</p><p>If this works this would only have the following restriction:</p><p><em>You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.</em></p><p>Thus if it has not yet been your regular turn you can speak an take a 5ft. step but afterwards at your turn your move action must not be moving.</p><p></p><p>To give an example:</p><p>Two PCs are sneaking ahead of the group. They are surprised by a monster which lurked in the shadows. After the surprise round the regular round starts:</p><p><strong>DM</strong>: "Okay, at ini 17 the monster attacks Player 1 *dice rolled* damage...you are down. The next initiative would be 15 as..."</p><p><strong>Player 2</strong>: "Wait, I shout out for help and take a 5ft. step back"</p><p><strong>DM</strong>: "Okay. Now at ini 15 another monster comes around the corner, but as you moved back 5 feet, it cannot reach you. Now, at ini 13 it is your turn Player 2"</p><p><strong>Player 2</strong>: "Well, as I took my 5ft step I draw my sword as a move action and strike at the first monster which almost killed my companion."</p><p></p><p>Would this work?</p><p></p><p>Cheers, Evil DM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Evil DM, post: 2585453, member: 23108"] Hej folks, I have a question about the 5ft. step: According to the SRD the 5ft. step belongs to [i]Not an Action[/i], that means: [i] They literally don’t take any time at all to do [b]and are considered an inherent part of doing something else[/b][/i]. At first this seems to fit with the readied action (if you do not ready a move action - yes). Example: You are standing next to a hostile wizard and ready a blow if the wizards starts to cast a spell. The wizard takes a 5ft. step back to avoid a AoO - okay, nothin happens. He starts to cast his spell - trigger!! You take a 5ft. step and close in to make your attack. This seems to be rather simple - okay. But now, how far does this [b]and are considered an inherent part of doing something else[/b] go? As also written in the SRD (to come to my topic) [i]In general, speaking is a free action that you can perform even when it isn’t your turn[/i]. Does this mean, that you can perfom a 5ft. step as part of [i]speaking[/i] even if it is not yourn turn? If this works this would only have the following restriction: [i]You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.[/i] Thus if it has not yet been your regular turn you can speak an take a 5ft. step but afterwards at your turn your move action must not be moving. To give an example: Two PCs are sneaking ahead of the group. They are surprised by a monster which lurked in the shadows. After the surprise round the regular round starts: [b]DM[/b]: "Okay, at ini 17 the monster attacks Player 1 *dice rolled* damage...you are down. The next initiative would be 15 as..." [b]Player 2[/b]: "Wait, I shout out for help and take a 5ft. step back" [b]DM[/b]: "Okay. Now at ini 15 another monster comes around the corner, but as you moved back 5 feet, it cannot reach you. Now, at ini 13 it is your turn Player 2" [b]Player 2[/b]: "Well, as I took my 5ft step I draw my sword as a move action and strike at the first monster which almost killed my companion." Would this work? Cheers, Evil DM [/QUOTE]
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