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<blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6828316" data-attributes="member: 82779"><p>WotC conducted surveys where most of the participants were people who already played D&D and who self-selected themselves for participation. That's not terribly conducive to figuring out what most people think of when they think of fantasy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We've been through this before, but nothing, absolutely nothing stopped you from saying no to whatever options you wanted to deny in 4e. Pretending otherwise does yourself a disservice because it discredits your own statements.</p><p></p><p>Also, you were one of the posters on the WotC forums who wanted all the non-standard races entirely banned from all three of the core books and shoved in a splatbook ghetto because you thought that inclusion in the core books meant that they would be "shoehorned into everything." In that discussion I reiterated several times that the 5e PHB should include a passage stating that all of the races, classes, spells, feats, etc. in the book are options, and that players should check with their DMs to see what is and is not allowed, and that wasn't good enough for you. It was splatbook ghetto or not at all. If the book telling you that you need to check with your DM to see what is allowed is not an explicit nod to DM authority and the notion that you can't just expect to use whatever you like, then nothing is. That fear was nonsensical, and your statements in that discussion clearly illustrated the lengths that you wanted WotC to go to in order to appease your bias against those races.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You really want to base the judgement of what's "good" based on how much it earns? The Transformers franchise has been one high-grossing piece of utter crap plopping into the bowl after another.</p><p></p><p>Re: Star Wars</p><p>TFA succeeded by being a virtual clone of eps 4-6, trading on nostalgia and the dislike of the prequels by mimicking the original trilogy so hard that it's practically a remake. Everything from the vital info hidden in a droid that escaped capture and then falls into the possession of the main character who's stuck on a desert planet while pining for something more, down to the attack run on the death star. . . oops. . . star killer. Because doubling down on the death star was a great idea that hadn't already been recycled in the original trilogy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaPilot, post: 6828316, member: 82779"] WotC conducted surveys where most of the participants were people who already played D&D and who self-selected themselves for participation. That's not terribly conducive to figuring out what most people think of when they think of fantasy. We've been through this before, but nothing, absolutely nothing stopped you from saying no to whatever options you wanted to deny in 4e. Pretending otherwise does yourself a disservice because it discredits your own statements. Also, you were one of the posters on the WotC forums who wanted all the non-standard races entirely banned from all three of the core books and shoved in a splatbook ghetto because you thought that inclusion in the core books meant that they would be "shoehorned into everything." In that discussion I reiterated several times that the 5e PHB should include a passage stating that all of the races, classes, spells, feats, etc. in the book are options, and that players should check with their DMs to see what is and is not allowed, and that wasn't good enough for you. It was splatbook ghetto or not at all. If the book telling you that you need to check with your DM to see what is allowed is not an explicit nod to DM authority and the notion that you can't just expect to use whatever you like, then nothing is. That fear was nonsensical, and your statements in that discussion clearly illustrated the lengths that you wanted WotC to go to in order to appease your bias against those races. You really want to base the judgement of what's "good" based on how much it earns? The Transformers franchise has been one high-grossing piece of utter crap plopping into the bowl after another. Re: Star Wars TFA succeeded by being a virtual clone of eps 4-6, trading on nostalgia and the dislike of the prequels by mimicking the original trilogy so hard that it's practically a remake. Everything from the vital info hidden in a droid that escaped capture and then falls into the possession of the main character who's stuck on a desert planet while pining for something more, down to the attack run on the death star. . . oops. . . star killer. Because doubling down on the death star was a great idea that hadn't already been recycled in the original trilogy. [/QUOTE]
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