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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 6362151" data-attributes="member: 63508">My experience is that fighters types and rogue types are noticeabley more effective that cantrip spamming caster in combat. Caster's aren't bad but they have to use spell slots to keep up. Then the point where your utility starts to suffer.I just saying that making enemies dead and sneeaking pass foes is best handled by noncasters. You'd rely on the fighter/paladin/barbarian/ranger attacking the wereworf twice with his 1d8+6 longsword or 2d6+4 greatsword twice,  the monk attacking with his 1d6+5 fists 2-3 times, or the rogue attacking with his 1d6+4 weapons twice with a 3d6 sneak attack before a caster's 2d8 cantrip. And using one of the casters only two 3rd level spells to deal 8d6 damage is a tough one unless you hit more than 3 people with it.</blockquote>