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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 6362649" data-attributes="member: 5889">1) Fighters can inflict status effects: prones, daze, stuns etc etc. So its not just pure damage.2) For me, when I think of fighters vs wizards I think of the old barbarian esque movies (like Conan). You would have wizards that can raise elementals, summon giant scorpions, steal the souls of man, etc...but when it was Conan vs the Wizard....Conan just couldn't be stopped. In a straight up fight, he was simply superior.That is martial vs caster balance to me... in some ways giving martial classes more of the "monk like defenses". I will give casters their versatility, and I will even give them decent damage. But of all the classes in a group, a high level fighter should have the least to fear in any situation. He laughs at high level magic....runs right into the monster's jaw with a smile on his face, because he simply...WILL NOT DIE!!That is part of why I miss the old Indomitable ability. To me that was it right there. A fighter who said "I do not fear magic"...and could back it up.</blockquote>