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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6362904" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>That's kinda ironic, really. PF made it's fortune on being more like 3.5 D&D than the then-current edition of D&D, itself. Now it's enjoying the freedom to improve itself by being "not D&D," while D&D is back to gimping it's designs for the sake of tradition, in order to challenge Pathfinder for the #1 spot? </p><p></p><p></p><p> It's a matter of what you want out of the game. If you want a balanced game that lets everyone play the concept they have in mind without one overwhelming and overshadowing another, then D&D's lack of class balance is a very real problem. If you want a game where "Casters Rule & Martials Drool," then, no, it's not a problem - except when it comes to getting people to play anything other than a caster (but there are always newbies and character-driven 'real' RPers, and trap choices can be made to look quite enticing, so it's never been an insurmountable problem).</p><p></p><p> Actually, a balanced game /can/ cover a very wide range of playstyles, it just makes establishing that one kind of character is more powerful than others a matter of spotting that kind of character levels or build resource or extra abilities, making the intent obvious.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> You're assuming a pretty large investment in DEX there - on both counts.</p><p></p><p> The encounter guidelines we've seen (Basic D&D DM pdf) seem to suggest that the average existing day will consist of 8 encounters and two short rests between long rests (though the short rests are only implied).</p><p></p><p> I vaguely recall one scene where a sorcerer paralyzed Conan with a ray. He might even have been astrally projecting at the time - at any rate, he caught him by surprise. But, it's been a long time since I read Howard's Conan, and I never really got into the pastiche.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6362904, member: 996"] That's kinda ironic, really. PF made it's fortune on being more like 3.5 D&D than the then-current edition of D&D, itself. Now it's enjoying the freedom to improve itself by being "not D&D," while D&D is back to gimping it's designs for the sake of tradition, in order to challenge Pathfinder for the #1 spot? It's a matter of what you want out of the game. If you want a balanced game that lets everyone play the concept they have in mind without one overwhelming and overshadowing another, then D&D's lack of class balance is a very real problem. If you want a game where "Casters Rule & Martials Drool," then, no, it's not a problem - except when it comes to getting people to play anything other than a caster (but there are always newbies and character-driven 'real' RPers, and trap choices can be made to look quite enticing, so it's never been an insurmountable problem). Actually, a balanced game /can/ cover a very wide range of playstyles, it just makes establishing that one kind of character is more powerful than others a matter of spotting that kind of character levels or build resource or extra abilities, making the intent obvious. You're assuming a pretty large investment in DEX there - on both counts. The encounter guidelines we've seen (Basic D&D DM pdf) seem to suggest that the average existing day will consist of 8 encounters and two short rests between long rests (though the short rests are only implied). I vaguely recall one scene where a sorcerer paralyzed Conan with a ray. He might even have been astrally projecting at the time - at any rate, he caught him by surprise. But, it's been a long time since I read Howard's Conan, and I never really got into the pastiche. [/QUOTE]
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