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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aoirorentsu" data-source="post: 6363440" data-attributes="member: 60129">My experience...I recently played a one-shot at 5th level.  We had a spell-casting-focused druid (who had lightning bolt), a fighter, my character (a fighter/rogue), and a cleric.  I realize I'm missing a big one with there being no arcane caster there, but the caster/martial difference was not a problem.  In fact, if anything, in combat us martial types did the vast majority of damage and got virtually all the kills (the combination of Sneak Attacks and Maneuvers from the Battle Master fighter or whatever-it's-called is pretty sweet).Out of combat, we had an interesting subjective gravity-based puzzle, a few skill-based challenges, and the like.  Sure, the casters get the occasional "I win" button (Sleep is powerful again in this edition and I love it). But for the most part there was no point where I felt like I couldn't contribute meaningfully.  And IMO, avoiding such occurrences (i.e. where one is so out-classed that they can't contribute at all) is about as reasonable a criteria for "balanced" as I have heard.And, of course, what everyone else said: martial characters are much less limited in using their abilities than are casters.I kind of think we should play the game for a little while before we talk about taking it apart and putting it back together again.  This puppy is very thoroughly play-tested and I like to think that if there was really that much of a discrepancy they would've addressed it along the way.  Maybe I'm being optimistic.</blockquote>

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