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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6364052" data-attributes="member: 18">I think this is all a bit off, frankly.I recently appraised of the phrase "special pleading", and it seems like it applies really, really well to what you're posting here - specifically you have a massive double-standard in which a caster firing off a cantrip or using a moderately effective weapon is "zzzzzzzzzzzzz" and "boring", but apparently a non-caster making a similar contribution, only with possibly a higher damage number is somehow having a great time.Most other stuff seems a bit dodgy too. You seemingly ignore the utility of utility cantrips, you seem to think casting utility spells is merely some sort of onerous chore, preventing you from casting REAL spells (i.e. combat spells), rather than something that most people think is awesome, you ignore most of the class/subclass features of casters (seemingly), and most strangely of all, you seem to wildly overestimating how long 5E combats against normal (i.e. not legendary) opponents last, which seems, from what I've gathered, to be more like 1-4 rounds, rather than 10-15. You complain that "3 spells per encounter is unobtainable!", but how many encounters will even last 3 rounds? If they do, how many will have those rounds beyond 3 as anything but "mop up"? Especially if you open with some sort of nasty spell. Not many, I'd imagine.With Teleport, it's a 7th level spell, but perhaps you mean Teleportation Circle, the 5th level one? I seriously doubt any normal party will have an expectation of you casting that twice a day. If they do, it's a huge deal, and they will certainly think it's important, as, presumably, will you, rather than seeing it as a "waste" or "zzzzzzzzzzz".You dismiss Burning Hands, I note, but it does 3d6 damage (so avg. 10.5) in a 15' cone, which, even at 10th level, is likely to be a spell worth casting on grouped enemies. You keep talking about "10HD" and so on - but PCs at 10th level aren't consistently facing 10HD monsters - they'll often be facing larger numbers of much lower HD monsters.And on top of this, you're basing all your assumptions on a 6-8 medium or hard COMBAT encounter a day structure, which, frankly, seems very unlikely to be what we actually see in the DMG, and I believe is not reflective of current WotC 5E adventures (I don't own any, so people who do feel free to correct me, but the impression I have got from threads, reviews, and so on is that whilst you may be looking at that number of encounters a day, not all are combat, and not all are medium+). [MENTION=6778261]Morty[/MENTION] - Yep. They were actually okay until very late in the Playtest, too, because you used to be able to refresh them in combat, and would be guaranteed to start a combat with them. Then, after the playtest had finished, and with no public feedback to let them know it was a dumb idea, they suddenly made them short-rest only, which means that, unless we're using the (supposed) DMG option to make short rests actually short, instead of lunch breaks, they're unlikely to be able to be used much.It's really sad and kind of odd how much they put the boot in on Martial characters after the Playtest finished.</blockquote>

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