Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Laeknir" data-source="post: 6494284" data-attributes="member: 33994"><p>Personally, I agree that there's a problem with too many epic heroes and lvl 20+ NPCs just hanging out in every single tiny village in the Forgotten Realms. Sure, it's a high magic setting. And sure, Elminster and the goddess-children power team are out solving the truly big problems. Or maybe you treat them as locked in an arms race standstill with big baddies. But all of that really DOES have an impact on gameplay. It really does.</p><p></p><p>Elminster and the powerpuff girls are ALWAYS going to be more powerful, they're always going to know more than you, and heck, they've even been instructed to create and "plant" magical treasures in ancient ruins that have been farmed for millenia by the other twenty million lvl 20+ NPCs before you.</p><p></p><p>It's a lot like playing in Lord of the Rings setting. People do that, but it's not a hugely popular setting because quite literally the metastory has been entrusted to and accomplished by Tolkien's main characters. You are always going to be in the background as a minor schmoe for as long as they publish "epic power" novels. In Tolkien, the big stuff has all been done, you're just a tourist. Same with the Realms, Elminster and crew and probably his numerous pals and buddies are always going to make you feel like a tourist.</p><p></p><p>Compare with Greyhawk, where the Circle of Eight might know a few special secrets or clues, but they aren't heroes and they're certainly not starring in some epic save-the-world story every 1-2 years in some novel. They're also not really a super-team. Mordenkainen has his own interests, studies, politics, and so on and doesn't pair up in some kind of superhero team every Tuesday after scones. He might -maybe- help you with a point of lore or some helpful item, but since he's not a hero he will make you pay for it with coin or service. Conversely, if Elminster has heard about a world-level problem he's probably going to push you out of the way to go solve it.</p><p></p><p>It's not just THAT they're in the setting, it's about WHO they are and what they're known for in the novels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Laeknir, post: 6494284, member: 33994"] Personally, I agree that there's a problem with too many epic heroes and lvl 20+ NPCs just hanging out in every single tiny village in the Forgotten Realms. Sure, it's a high magic setting. And sure, Elminster and the goddess-children power team are out solving the truly big problems. Or maybe you treat them as locked in an arms race standstill with big baddies. But all of that really DOES have an impact on gameplay. It really does. Elminster and the powerpuff girls are ALWAYS going to be more powerful, they're always going to know more than you, and heck, they've even been instructed to create and "plant" magical treasures in ancient ruins that have been farmed for millenia by the other twenty million lvl 20+ NPCs before you. It's a lot like playing in Lord of the Rings setting. People do that, but it's not a hugely popular setting because quite literally the metastory has been entrusted to and accomplished by Tolkien's main characters. You are always going to be in the background as a minor schmoe for as long as they publish "epic power" novels. In Tolkien, the big stuff has all been done, you're just a tourist. Same with the Realms, Elminster and crew and probably his numerous pals and buddies are always going to make you feel like a tourist. Compare with Greyhawk, where the Circle of Eight might know a few special secrets or clues, but they aren't heroes and they're certainly not starring in some epic save-the-world story every 1-2 years in some novel. They're also not really a super-team. Mordenkainen has his own interests, studies, politics, and so on and doesn't pair up in some kind of superhero team every Tuesday after scones. He might -maybe- help you with a point of lore or some helpful item, but since he's not a hero he will make you pay for it with coin or service. Conversely, if Elminster has heard about a world-level problem he's probably going to push you out of the way to go solve it. It's not just THAT they're in the setting, it's about WHO they are and what they're known for in the novels. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?
Top