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5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?
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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6496663" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p><strong>A little mnemonic to remember which spelling of canon/cannon is which: One N you argue, Two N's you shoot.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>And back to the real discussion...</strong></p><p></p><p>Canon: literally, a list. Originally, a list of what is approved. Origin is in the early councils of the Catholic/Orthodox churches. The first canons are the lists of rules from the councils, and the list of what books are allowed for services. </p><p></p><p>The bible is the classic example of a closed public canon... but, depending upon which authority you ask, you get a different list.</p><p></p><p>Some terms: </p><p>An <em>open canon</em> can be added to. </p><p>A <em>closed canon</em> has a fixed set of sources. </p><p>A <em>corpus</em> is the entire collected works.</p><p>A <em>public canon</em> is one where what is canon is declared by the authority publicly; a <em>private canon</em> is only released on a need to know.</p><p></p><p>The corpus of the realms has gotten to the point where no one can keep it all straight. Happens with most multi-author fictional settings.</p><p></p><p>The solution for an authorial point of view is to establish a subset of the corpus that is a declared canon, and in fiction writing, that canon is usually private, shared only between the line manager, the editors, and often also the authors. In other cases (Star Wars; Star Trek through about 1998; Babylon 5; Firefly) the canon is public - the authority publicly disseminates a list; "this list is what's canon"... and anyone working in that setting now is expected to only consider that material canon. Sometimes the canon is open; the other authors can add to it.</p><p></p><p>In the case of Star Trek, Canon has been (last I heard) reverted to just the footage, excluding the animated. </p><p>Star Wars has such a diverse writing environment that they established multiple levels of canonicity. So, for comics, all the prior comics are canon...</p><p></p><p><strong><em>The</em> Realms, <em>however, has thousands of authors...</em></strong> from a GM standpoint, it's a neither closed nor open, but in between. It's got a large corpus, a private canon, and that canon is known to be open to the writers. </p><p></p><p>The fact that the canon isn't public is a problem for some (Sailor Moon is one, I suspect) - the GM never knows if canon is or is not being changed by what they get. For others, it's a blessing. I don't know exactly what's canon, so I feel free to grab from the various wikis. I also feel free to disregard elements that I can't make work.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, that the corpus is large, and the canon is open and private means that, no matter how good I am, I'm going to annoy someone because I got something "wrong." Which is part of why I don't like published settings without a known canon.</p><p></p><p>So, in running it, it's best to decide what is YOUR realms canon. Then stick with that. Ignore the rest of the corpus, just like most christians ignore 3 & 4 Maccabees. If you don't mention it, most won't miss it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 6496663, member: 6779310"] [B]A little mnemonic to remember which spelling of canon/cannon is which: One N you argue, Two N's you shoot.[/B] [B]And back to the real discussion...[/B] Canon: literally, a list. Originally, a list of what is approved. Origin is in the early councils of the Catholic/Orthodox churches. The first canons are the lists of rules from the councils, and the list of what books are allowed for services. The bible is the classic example of a closed public canon... but, depending upon which authority you ask, you get a different list. Some terms: An [I]open canon[/I] can be added to. A [I]closed canon[/I] has a fixed set of sources. A [I]corpus[/I] is the entire collected works. A [I]public canon[/I] is one where what is canon is declared by the authority publicly; a [I]private canon[/I] is only released on a need to know. The corpus of the realms has gotten to the point where no one can keep it all straight. Happens with most multi-author fictional settings. The solution for an authorial point of view is to establish a subset of the corpus that is a declared canon, and in fiction writing, that canon is usually private, shared only between the line manager, the editors, and often also the authors. In other cases (Star Wars; Star Trek through about 1998; Babylon 5; Firefly) the canon is public - the authority publicly disseminates a list; "this list is what's canon"... and anyone working in that setting now is expected to only consider that material canon. Sometimes the canon is open; the other authors can add to it. In the case of Star Trek, Canon has been (last I heard) reverted to just the footage, excluding the animated. Star Wars has such a diverse writing environment that they established multiple levels of canonicity. So, for comics, all the prior comics are canon... [B][I]The[/i] Realms, [i]however, has thousands of authors...[/I][/B] from a GM standpoint, it's a neither closed nor open, but in between. It's got a large corpus, a private canon, and that canon is known to be open to the writers. The fact that the canon isn't public is a problem for some (Sailor Moon is one, I suspect) - the GM never knows if canon is or is not being changed by what they get. For others, it's a blessing. I don't know exactly what's canon, so I feel free to grab from the various wikis. I also feel free to disregard elements that I can't make work. On the other hand, that the corpus is large, and the canon is open and private means that, no matter how good I am, I'm going to annoy someone because I got something "wrong." Which is part of why I don't like published settings without a known canon. So, in running it, it's best to decide what is YOUR realms canon. Then stick with that. Ignore the rest of the corpus, just like most christians ignore 3 & 4 Maccabees. If you don't mention it, most won't miss it. [/QUOTE]
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