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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6497792" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I'm not "criticizing" anyone just stating my opinion on the presented situation... that's what forums are for, to discuss.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What proof do you have of this? The only example we have of the FR doing this is the 4e FR books and I would love to see if they pulled in a significantly larger set of new DM's than any other FR campaign setting book...Or are most players and DM's unconcerned with details and canon at the level [MENTION=67338]GMforPowergamers[/MENTION] players are and instead stick to a subset of the canon that they can manage or afford (in the same way that most groups only ever buy the three core books). I don't have real data either way but I would bet most new DM's buy the main campaign setting book (in any edition) and for the most part use only that... so I don't think the FR has so much canon that a GM can't realistically set about picking it up and running it... it's just on him or her how much is incorporated into his/her game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well again, the only example we have of this is the 4e FR's books (which I honestly don't think sold well)... and the only way we will have even an inkling of whether this worked or not is if they do or don't revert the FR campaign setting for 5e back to a more classical/canonical version and even then it's still only guesses that can be drawn unless someone from WotC speaks out about it. Another question would be do those who read the novels also purchase the FR gamebooks (in the same way fans of other settings buy world or sourcebooks), if so that could account for a huge part of the FR gaming revenue and would definitely be a pretty big incentive (depending on the percentage of FR gamebook sales attributed to this) for WotC to keep the canon of books and game in line. Personally I was greatly dissapointed in the FR 4e books vs. the 3e campaign setting main book... but perhaps I am an outlier here. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't even understand what you are saying here... I'm well aware it isn't a question of morality (not even sure how you drew that conclusion from my statement). I think it's pretty clear what my statement meant in the context of the discussion... </p><p></p><p>But, since you're unclear on my meaning let me state it simply for you... some in this thread are claiming that there is too much canon for the FR's and that they can't choose to scale it back in their games because of their players... and thus WotC should scale it back for them. If this were to happen those who do enjoy the canon would loose it for future editions... My opinion is that they should not loose it because some can't limit it in their own personal campaigns... is that more clear?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah I think that's a given... and above I am expressing my own thoughts on what they should do (since nothing has been set in stone, though there are rumors of them moving back towards a more classical FR setting)... I'm still failing to see how I made it a question of morality??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6497792, member: 48965"] I'm not "criticizing" anyone just stating my opinion on the presented situation... that's what forums are for, to discuss. What proof do you have of this? The only example we have of the FR doing this is the 4e FR books and I would love to see if they pulled in a significantly larger set of new DM's than any other FR campaign setting book...Or are most players and DM's unconcerned with details and canon at the level [MENTION=67338]GMforPowergamers[/MENTION] players are and instead stick to a subset of the canon that they can manage or afford (in the same way that most groups only ever buy the three core books). I don't have real data either way but I would bet most new DM's buy the main campaign setting book (in any edition) and for the most part use only that... so I don't think the FR has so much canon that a GM can't realistically set about picking it up and running it... it's just on him or her how much is incorporated into his/her game. Well again, the only example we have of this is the 4e FR's books (which I honestly don't think sold well)... and the only way we will have even an inkling of whether this worked or not is if they do or don't revert the FR campaign setting for 5e back to a more classical/canonical version and even then it's still only guesses that can be drawn unless someone from WotC speaks out about it. Another question would be do those who read the novels also purchase the FR gamebooks (in the same way fans of other settings buy world or sourcebooks), if so that could account for a huge part of the FR gaming revenue and would definitely be a pretty big incentive (depending on the percentage of FR gamebook sales attributed to this) for WotC to keep the canon of books and game in line. Personally I was greatly dissapointed in the FR 4e books vs. the 3e campaign setting main book... but perhaps I am an outlier here. I don't even understand what you are saying here... I'm well aware it isn't a question of morality (not even sure how you drew that conclusion from my statement). I think it's pretty clear what my statement meant in the context of the discussion... But, since you're unclear on my meaning let me state it simply for you... some in this thread are claiming that there is too much canon for the FR's and that they can't choose to scale it back in their games because of their players... and thus WotC should scale it back for them. If this were to happen those who do enjoy the canon would loose it for future editions... My opinion is that they should not loose it because some can't limit it in their own personal campaigns... is that more clear? Yeah I think that's a given... and above I am expressing my own thoughts on what they should do (since nothing has been set in stone, though there are rumors of them moving back towards a more classical FR setting)... I'm still failing to see how I made it a question of morality?? [/QUOTE]
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