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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6631473" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>I'm not sure why we're debating this again. It was proven mathematically that GWM and Sharpshooter become more powerful as you level due to Bounded Accuracy making it a haves versus have-nots situation. Those of us discussing Sharpshooter and GWM have played campaigns to 16+. I even have a second campaign at level seven. Sharpshooter isn't outclassing everyone at level 7. The Eldritch Blast warlock/fighter and Monk are keeping up with the damage of the Sharpshooter because he does miss more often at level 7. If your campaigns are in that 6 to 12 range that is common in WotC's survey, you'll probably be ok with those feats. They aren't nearly as problematic. </p><p></p><p>If you plan to play to a good ways past 11th, up to say 14 to 18, be aware that Sharpshooter and GWM (if you expend resources to get the melee martial into the fight) can lead to a martial doing far more damage than everyone else. The math shows that GWM and Sharpshooter are mainly high level problems. To put it in 5E terms you don't start to see the problem until the end of 3rd tier play and the start of 4th tier play. Though you do still get the occasional extreme nova from both feats here and there with Action Surging Fighters or Vow using paladins. It's not quite as a bad because a ki using Monk (especially Way of the Open Hand) or warlock generally does quite a bit more often using their capabilities. </p><p></p><p>It's mostly an FYI for you and any other player entering the end of tier 3 and start of tier 4 play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6631473, member: 5834"] I'm not sure why we're debating this again. It was proven mathematically that GWM and Sharpshooter become more powerful as you level due to Bounded Accuracy making it a haves versus have-nots situation. Those of us discussing Sharpshooter and GWM have played campaigns to 16+. I even have a second campaign at level seven. Sharpshooter isn't outclassing everyone at level 7. The Eldritch Blast warlock/fighter and Monk are keeping up with the damage of the Sharpshooter because he does miss more often at level 7. If your campaigns are in that 6 to 12 range that is common in WotC's survey, you'll probably be ok with those feats. They aren't nearly as problematic. If you plan to play to a good ways past 11th, up to say 14 to 18, be aware that Sharpshooter and GWM (if you expend resources to get the melee martial into the fight) can lead to a martial doing far more damage than everyone else. The math shows that GWM and Sharpshooter are mainly high level problems. To put it in 5E terms you don't start to see the problem until the end of 3rd tier play and the start of 4th tier play. Though you do still get the occasional extreme nova from both feats here and there with Action Surging Fighters or Vow using paladins. It's not quite as a bad because a ki using Monk (especially Way of the Open Hand) or warlock generally does quite a bit more often using their capabilities. It's mostly an FYI for you and any other player entering the end of tier 3 and start of tier 4 play. [/QUOTE]
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