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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6631528" data-attributes="member: 2011">No doubt. I was merely pointing out that it is not a 25% difference like you stated unless the chance to hit in the GMW case is really high (like 75% or AC 15 post buffs/debuffs). Granted, this could occur with buffs and such, but on the other hand, most high level encounters worth their salt have higher AC foes and/or counters for such buffs. To make challenging high level encounters, a DM has to be creative. The PCs just have too many options and synergies otherwise. Just adding in more foes merely slows down the game. It allows the GMW case to do more damage percentage-wise, but at the cost of having a grind. To avoid this, the DM has to counter PC capabilities with NPC capabilities. Otherwise, 20th level PCs won't even be challenged with 99+% of the monsters in the Monster Manual.You appear to be overestimating the damage increase percentage of -5/+10 by a small amount and assuming that buffs and such would allow for such a possibility. They might, but not if the DM is proactive about challenging the players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6631528, member: 2011"] No doubt. I was merely pointing out that it is not a 25% difference like you stated unless the chance to hit in the GMW case is really high (like 75% or AC 15 post buffs/debuffs). Granted, this could occur with buffs and such, but on the other hand, most high level encounters worth their salt have higher AC foes and/or counters for such buffs. To make challenging high level encounters, a DM has to be creative. The PCs just have too many options and synergies otherwise. Just adding in more foes merely slows down the game. It allows the GMW case to do more damage percentage-wise, but at the cost of having a grind. To avoid this, the DM has to counter PC capabilities with NPC capabilities. Otherwise, 20th level PCs won't even be challenged with 99+% of the monsters in the Monster Manual. You appear to be overestimating the damage increase percentage of -5/+10 by a small amount and assuming that buffs and such would allow for such a possibility. They might, but not if the DM is proactive about challenging the players. [/QUOTE]

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