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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6632868" data-attributes="member: 5834">I'll cover this first. This was the first time we played 5E. He did not know when he made his character that this would become an issue at higher level. He was making a character concept he enjoyed in every other edition of D&amp;D. It had never been this much of a problem until 5E introduced the concentration mechanic. Invalid logic to you? I think if you're friends with someone, you will help them have fun in a game you're playing primarily for fun. I think if you do look across at your buddy and tell him you won't buff him with a fly spell when you know he can't get into battle any other way, you and he aren't very good friends. I'll just halt this discussion right now. We're never, ever going to agree as to what a friend does for another friend. I consider it extremely important for a friend to play a group game in a manner that helps the overall party. If he is playing selfishly such as playing a healer that won't heal or the arcane caster that won't buff, that isn't enjoyable for most of the group. It creates a very bad precedent at the table in my experience. We all have different ideas of what constitutes friendship. I've always been of the mind that you help your buddies have fun or succeed, that includes games.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6632868, member: 5834"] I'll cover this first. This was the first time we played 5E. He did not know when he made his character that this would become an issue at higher level. He was making a character concept he enjoyed in every other edition of D&D. It had never been this much of a problem until 5E introduced the concentration mechanic. Invalid logic to you? I think if you're friends with someone, you will help them have fun in a game you're playing primarily for fun. I think if you do look across at your buddy and tell him you won't buff him with a [I]fly[/I] spell when you know he can't get into battle any other way, you and he aren't very good friends. I'll just halt this discussion right now. We're never, ever going to agree as to what a friend does for another friend. I consider it extremely important for a friend to play a group game in a manner that helps the overall party. If he is playing selfishly such as playing a healer that won't heal or the arcane caster that won't buff, that isn't enjoyable for most of the group. It creates a very bad precedent at the table in my experience. We all have different ideas of what constitutes friendship. I've always been of the mind that you help your buddies have fun or succeed, that includes games. [/QUOTE]

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