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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6633656" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Cranking some math just for fun: </p><p></p><p>Assume a 12th level Paladin of Devotion with Str 18, Dex 12 and Cha 20 and a longbow (+5 to hit). The foe can be an adult red dragon (AC 19). DPR against that AC with bog-standard everything is <strong>4.3</strong>, which may not sound like much but hey! it's better than zero. If he casts Magic Weapon on himself to get a +2 bow that goes up to DPR 5.65. If he also uses Sacred Weapon it goes to <strong>8.9</strong>. If he's willing to also invest in Sharpshooter that goes up to DPR <strong>13.65</strong>--that's kind of a questionable return on investment for a feat, but it is an option, and would allow him to inflict <strong>40.95</strong> points of damage on the dragon while it is still closing, as well as punish it if it chooses to hold the range open.</p><p></p><p>Compare to DPR <strong>42.2</strong> (<strong>59.95</strong> with Sacred Weapon) if he can actually get it into melee range and smite with his three 3rd level spell slots (<strong>7d8+4=36.5</strong> damage per hit).</p><p></p><p>To provide some context: </p><p></p><p>A Warlock with Hex and Cha 20 would be doing <strong>22.65 DPR</strong>, a Sorlock would be doing <strong>45.3</strong>, an Int 20 Evoker with Magic Missile V would be doing <strong>52.5</strong>, a Dex 20 archer would be doing <strong>19.2</strong>, a Sharpshooter archer with Dex 20 would be doing <strong>24.08</strong>, a Sharpshooter with Dex 18 would be doing <strong>20.1</strong>, an action surging Dex 20 Sharpshooter would be doing <strong>48.15</strong>, and a Cha 20 Scorching Ray Gold Dragon Sorc would be doing <strong>41.7</strong> if not for the pesky way red dragons are immune to fire.</p><p></p><p>So the bog-standard Paladin with a longbow is pretty much futile, but by investing in Sharpshooter he can do damage about half that of a specialized archer in spite of his Dex 12. Whether that's more attractive than just sticking purely to melee will be a campaign-dependent decision that has a lot to do with how much you enjoy being a generalist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6633656, member: 6787650"] Cranking some math just for fun: Assume a 12th level Paladin of Devotion with Str 18, Dex 12 and Cha 20 and a longbow (+5 to hit). The foe can be an adult red dragon (AC 19). DPR against that AC with bog-standard everything is [B]4.3[/B], which may not sound like much but hey! it's better than zero. If he casts Magic Weapon on himself to get a +2 bow that goes up to DPR 5.65. If he also uses Sacred Weapon it goes to [B]8.9[/B]. If he's willing to also invest in Sharpshooter that goes up to DPR [B]13.65[/B]--that's kind of a questionable return on investment for a feat, but it is an option, and would allow him to inflict [B]40.95[/B] points of damage on the dragon while it is still closing, as well as punish it if it chooses to hold the range open. Compare to DPR [B]42.2[/B] ([B]59.95[/B] with Sacred Weapon) if he can actually get it into melee range and smite with his three 3rd level spell slots ([B]7d8+4=36.5[/B] damage per hit). To provide some context: A Warlock with Hex and Cha 20 would be doing [B]22.65 DPR[/B], a Sorlock would be doing [B]45.3[/B], an Int 20 Evoker with Magic Missile V would be doing [B]52.5[/B], a Dex 20 archer would be doing [B]19.2[/B], a Sharpshooter archer with Dex 20 would be doing [B]24.08[/B], a Sharpshooter with Dex 18 would be doing [B]20.1[/B], an action surging Dex 20 Sharpshooter would be doing [B]48.15[/B], and a Cha 20 Scorching Ray Gold Dragon Sorc would be doing [B]41.7[/B] if not for the pesky way red dragons are immune to fire. So the bog-standard Paladin with a longbow is pretty much futile, but by investing in Sharpshooter he can do damage about half that of a specialized archer in spite of his Dex 12. Whether that's more attractive than just sticking purely to melee will be a campaign-dependent decision that has a lot to do with how much you enjoy being a generalist. [/QUOTE]
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