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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6633889" data-attributes="member: 5834">No. That is the argument you were making. You don't want to acknowledge that game circumstances require a fly spell for a martial to engage a dragon effectively in combat. That they have a mobility issue. That concentration creates a situation where a caster must choose to play selfishly leaving the melee martial on the ground doing nothing or play as a team using a fly spell and using one of his many other options to attack that the melee martial doesn't have. You even posted that if he wants to palya  melee martial that can fly, he should multilclass basically eliminating a bunch of classic fantasy archetypes from play. You did write that.I doubt you comprehend my posts. Let's see all the contradictions you've posted in this thread:1. You don't want to be forced to buff somebody...Yet2. You don't like someone being good at everything...which means they might need some help at things they're not good at meaning buffs.Yet3. encourage them to multiclass so they can fly and use their melee martial weapon in combat requiring the ability to cast at least a 3rd level spell meaning only making Eldritch Knights or multiclass caster/melee martialsYet4. "It's the players responsibility to make sure this happens himself"while5. Not being good at everything.In a game that6. Doesn't have default magic items as the standard.Like I said, there was a reason you're on ignore. You don't make much sense. You're all over the place and don't realize how much of what you posted doesn't add up. Ah. Now talking about Stockholm Syndrome and making an asinine response. Now you're attempting to make it seem like any of what you posted isn't true. Are you saying the following isn't true?1. If you set a selfish precedent, other players will reciprocate? Not true? Really? You believe that? You don't respond in kind when you are treated a certain way? Certainly seems like you do.2. Stuck doing it for another player. Yes. I am stuck. Concentration mechanic is not optional if playing without house rules. If I want a large percentage of my party's damage to be brought to bear on my enemies, then yes, I am stuck casting the fly spell because of the game. Why you don't believe this is true, I don't know. You couldn't prove it in actual battle in the circumstances we were in. You would have wiped your party trying to kill a dragon by yourself why your melee buddy stood on the ground waiting.  3. I would rather have cast bigby's hand or animate objects in some of the fights, but you know, that concentration mechanic got in the way. I could have done hoping that either spell did as much as the melee martial. Likely that wouldn't have been the case.Blame? Why are you thinking in terms of blame? I stated the factual rules of 5E and how they worked in the combats I was in. The melee martial fighter needed fly to get into combat against the dragon. The concentration mechanic left me stuck casting it on him as well as the paladin. I also will add that if your natural inclination is not to help the melee martial fighter get into combat and you're going  call him "selfish" or tell him to play another class as you did in your previous post, you probably aren't playing with friends. You're playing with people you don't mind insulting. Generally people you don't mind insulting aren't friends.And I believe we're done conversing as I don't believe you have anything to add to the conversation. You are illogical.</blockquote>

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