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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 6633931" data-attributes="member: 6786252">How many pages was this on the right way or wrong way to play with your friends?I really have to laugh, because this is all so strange to me.&nbsp;&nbsp; The root problem here, in my opinion, isn't that a wizard is limited by casting fly on a STR-based warrior.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think the real problem is that STR warriors don't have a lot of good ranged options.&nbsp; &nbsp; If they did?&nbsp;&nbsp; Then they'd have something to do with flying dragons when they come around, and the wizard could be having fun with a different Concentration spell, and everyone would be happy.&nbsp; After that, if a caster wanted to put fly on the STR warrior anyways to make him faster, than that's a tactical choice then, and nothing approaching the feeling of an obligation that some people may feel.&nbsp;&nbsp; The design flaw at the root of this crazy thing has nothing to do with Concentration, it has to do with the warrior.&nbsp; So, not only have we gone way off track by arguing about the Right Way to Play D&amp;D With Your Friends, but the entire problem was misidentified in the first.&nbsp;&nbsp; The situation where a caster felt that casting fly on their friend was a necessity should never have come up in the first place.&nbsp;&nbsp; Buffing utility spells, like magic equipment, should be pure gravy when it happens, never a necessity or obligation.&nbsp; --------------------------------------For the record, I firmly oppose the idea that 5e has roles for any class, or set of classes.&nbsp;&nbsp; There's no &quot;divine classes must heal!&quot; or &quot;arcane classes must buff!&quot; or anything like that.&nbsp;&nbsp; In fact, I don't think there are divine or arcane classes anymore.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, there's no required &quot;healer&quot; or &quot;buffer,&quot; even if we have a cleric and wizard in the party - certainly, I wouldn't expect a Tempest Domain or a Necromancer to have to have heals or utility buffs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 6633931, member: 6786252"] [I][U][B]How[/B][/U][/I] many pages was this on the right way or wrong way to play with your friends? I really have to laugh, because this is all so strange to me. The root problem here, in my opinion, isn't that a wizard is limited by casting [I]fly[/I] on a STR-based warrior. I think the real problem is that STR warriors don't have a lot of good ranged options. If they did? Then they'd have something to do with flying dragons when they come around, and the wizard could be having fun with a different Concentration spell, and everyone would be happy. After that, if a caster wanted to put fly on the STR warrior anyways to make him faster, than that's a tactical choice then, and nothing approaching the feeling of an obligation that some people may feel. The design flaw at the root of this crazy thing has nothing to do with Concentration, it has to do with the warrior. So, not only have we gone way off track by arguing about the Right Way to Play D&D With Your Friends, but the entire problem was misidentified in the first. The situation where a caster felt that casting [I]fly[/I] on their friend was a necessity should never have come up in the first place. Buffing utility spells, like magic equipment, should be pure gravy when it happens, never a necessity or obligation. -------------------------------------- For the record, I firmly oppose the idea that 5e has roles for any class, or set of classes. There's no "divine classes must heal!" or "arcane classes must buff!" or anything like that. In fact, I don't think there are divine or arcane classes anymore. So, there's no required "healer" or "buffer," even if we have a cleric and wizard in the party - certainly, I wouldn't expect a Tempest Domain or a Necromancer to have to have heals or utility buffs. [/QUOTE]

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