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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6634113" data-attributes="member: 6787650">I don't think I ever answered this question, so I will now: I think this situation would be significantly more fun if the rules give you zero ways to solve the problem effectively, i.e. if the Fly spell is not available. If I know Fly is going to work for sure then it's unrealistic from an RPG standpoint for the PCs to look for an alternate route instead of just doing what works well and killing it in the air. If there is no easy option then the PCs get creative: going on a hunt for Purple Worms to milk venom to put on your arrows a la Heracles and hydra venom; using illusions to bait a dragon into a 10' tunnel; feeding ingestive poison to a cow which you then contrive to feed to the dragon (the dragon might be less suspicious if you feed the poison to a PC instead <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />); casting Water Breathing and stealing an item from its treasure hoard so the white dragon will chase you into the depths of the ocean and then at the right moment, enlarging yourself or turning into a giant octopus and grappling it until it drowns; waiting until it leaves the lair and then hiding inside of its treasure hoard for an ambush when it gets back; etc. If it works it will be epic. If not, well, you didn't have a better plan anyway! Dying is nothing to be ashamed of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6634113, member: 6787650"] I don't think I ever answered this question, so I will now: I think this situation would be significantly more fun if the rules give you [I]zero[/I] ways to solve the problem effectively, i.e. if the Fly spell is not available. If I know Fly is going to work for sure then it's unrealistic from an RPG standpoint for the PCs to look for an alternate route instead of just doing what works well and killing it in the air. If there is no easy option then the PCs get creative: going on a hunt for Purple Worms to milk venom to put on your arrows a la Heracles and hydra venom; using illusions to bait a dragon into a 10' tunnel; feeding ingestive poison to a cow which you then contrive to feed to the dragon (the dragon might be less suspicious if you feed the poison to a PC instead :-)); casting Water Breathing and stealing an item from its treasure hoard so the white dragon will chase you into the depths of the ocean and then at the right moment, enlarging yourself or turning into a giant octopus and grappling it until it drowns; waiting until it leaves the lair and then hiding inside of its treasure hoard for an ambush when it gets back; etc. If it works it will be epic. If not, well, you didn't have a better plan anyway! Dying is nothing to be ashamed of. [/QUOTE]

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