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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6634178" data-attributes="member: 5834">How small do you think these lairs are that you can do this quickly? You think he was in some of kind of easily accessible cave where you walk in and find him quickly? We had to descend into icy caverns to fight the white dragon. It's main exit was an underwater cave on an iceberg (we found this out after we could use the information). It took us quite a while to locate the cavern the dragon lived in that was all difficult terrain and hundreds of feet across with ledges and other features we couldn't maneuver past without fly and places for it to hide. It was the harshest dragon lairs I've seen other than live volcanoes. Whoever designed the Tyranny of Dragons dragon lairs did a good job. I didn't love the plot and role-play elements of Tyranny of Dragons. The dragon lairs were impressive.The tactics are stating seem to indicate you haven't fought an adult dragon in its lair. The lairs we experienced were vast. Thousands of feet of exploration required, practically a dungeon in itself, some stocked with monsters. The entire area counting as the dragon's lair. He could do a lair action while you're walking down a hallway looking for him, seal you off from your skeletons, hit them with the breath weapon, wander off a while, rinse and repeat. Unless the lair is set up for it, you will not be sending owls and these characters in. They won't be one move from your Leomund's tiny hut. If the dragon has a means to seal them off, well, the reverse of your tactics will happen. You don't have ten minutes. Why would you think you had that amount of time? How would you have 16 owls every ten minutes? How are you recovering the slot to cast that? There is no ritual that allows you to cast a conjuration spell endlessly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6634178, member: 5834"] How small do you think these lairs are that you can do this quickly? You think he was in some of kind of easily accessible cave where you walk in and find him quickly? We had to descend into icy caverns to fight the white dragon. It's main exit was an underwater cave on an iceberg (we found this out after we could use the information). It took us quite a while to locate the cavern the dragon lived in that was all difficult terrain and hundreds of feet across with ledges and other features we couldn't maneuver past without fly and places for it to hide. It was the harshest dragon lairs I've seen other than live volcanoes. Whoever designed the Tyranny of Dragons dragon lairs did a good job. I didn't love the plot and role-play elements of Tyranny of Dragons. The dragon lairs were impressive. The tactics are stating seem to indicate you haven't fought an adult dragon in its lair. The lairs we experienced were vast. Thousands of feet of exploration required, practically a dungeon in itself, some stocked with monsters. The entire area counting as the dragon's lair. He could do a lair action while you're walking down a hallway looking for him, seal you off from your skeletons, hit them with the breath weapon, wander off a while, rinse and repeat. Unless the lair is set up for it, you will not be sending owls and these characters in. They won't be one move from your Leomund's tiny hut. If the dragon has a means to seal them off, well, the reverse of your tactics will happen. You don't have ten minutes. Why would you think you had that amount of time? How would you have 16 owls every ten minutes? How are you recovering the slot to cast that? There is no ritual that allows you to cast a conjuration spell endlessly. [/QUOTE]

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