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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6634231" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>No, you will not receive an apology. I am not dealing with imaginary dragons out of the Monster Manual and theory-crafting strategies to defeat them. I am dealing with designed encounters in a module produced by a company licensed by WotC with vast dragon lairs. You seem to have no experience with this in 5E. What I stated was factual based on your stated tactics and not in anyway meant to be insulting.</p><p></p><p>I am telling you that in Tyranny of Dragons lairs were vast and the tactics you stated would not have worked due to the size of the lairs. If you have not experienced vast dragon the lairs present in Tyranny of Dragons, then you are generating tactics that do not fit the experience. Thus making your tactical advice unhelpful.</p><p></p><p>I am not an emotional person. I am not insulting you. Imagine you are talking to a Vulcan who is making statement that is factual to him. I based my response on your response. The tactics you stated in every single response of how to deal with the dragon would not have worked given the terrain circumstances. The idea that you think you can set up a <em>Leomund's Hut</em> within one move of the dragon outside of the lair continues to support my belief that you have no experience fighting 5E dragons in a vast dragon lair such as those in the Tyranny of Dragons module.</p><p></p><p>This whole explaining every little detail to anyone hopping in on this conversation and having them interpret what was stated as insulting or attempting to tell me how things should be played is not productive. I played a WotC licensed module with vast dragon lairs where the dragons had the advantage with melee martials as our main damage dealers. <em>Fly</em> was our best option. Due to the concentration mechanic, it severely limited my options. This is not disputable and is based on the game mechanics. Whether or not you find this boring is disputable and a matter of personal taste. I found it boring.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to apologize because someone interprets something as an insult and starts a side tangent on a message board. That behavior is getting incredibly tiresome. I don't feel any emotion whatsoever in these discussions. I hold no grudges. I have no interest in responding to emotionally based arguments or statements where the other person does not seem to acknowledge whether a statement is factual. Did you ask yourself, "Was what he said factual? Do I have any experience fighting dragons in vast lairs in 5E? Have I played Tyranny of Dragons?" If the answer is yes, then offer the experience. If the answer is no, then accept that you may not be able to offer helpful advice in this discussion until you have more information to go on and ask for that information if you wish to continue the discussion. Otherwise, we can both move along. It's not important enough for either of us to get our noses out of joint.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6634231, member: 5834"] No, you will not receive an apology. I am not dealing with imaginary dragons out of the Monster Manual and theory-crafting strategies to defeat them. I am dealing with designed encounters in a module produced by a company licensed by WotC with vast dragon lairs. You seem to have no experience with this in 5E. What I stated was factual based on your stated tactics and not in anyway meant to be insulting. I am telling you that in Tyranny of Dragons lairs were vast and the tactics you stated would not have worked due to the size of the lairs. If you have not experienced vast dragon the lairs present in Tyranny of Dragons, then you are generating tactics that do not fit the experience. Thus making your tactical advice unhelpful. I am not an emotional person. I am not insulting you. Imagine you are talking to a Vulcan who is making statement that is factual to him. I based my response on your response. The tactics you stated in every single response of how to deal with the dragon would not have worked given the terrain circumstances. The idea that you think you can set up a [I]Leomund's Hut[/I] within one move of the dragon outside of the lair continues to support my belief that you have no experience fighting 5E dragons in a vast dragon lair such as those in the Tyranny of Dragons module. This whole explaining every little detail to anyone hopping in on this conversation and having them interpret what was stated as insulting or attempting to tell me how things should be played is not productive. I played a WotC licensed module with vast dragon lairs where the dragons had the advantage with melee martials as our main damage dealers. [I]Fly[/I] was our best option. Due to the concentration mechanic, it severely limited my options. This is not disputable and is based on the game mechanics. Whether or not you find this boring is disputable and a matter of personal taste. I found it boring. I'm not going to apologize because someone interprets something as an insult and starts a side tangent on a message board. That behavior is getting incredibly tiresome. I don't feel any emotion whatsoever in these discussions. I hold no grudges. I have no interest in responding to emotionally based arguments or statements where the other person does not seem to acknowledge whether a statement is factual. Did you ask yourself, "Was what he said factual? Do I have any experience fighting dragons in vast lairs in 5E? Have I played Tyranny of Dragons?" If the answer is yes, then offer the experience. If the answer is no, then accept that you may not be able to offer helpful advice in this discussion until you have more information to go on and ask for that information if you wish to continue the discussion. Otherwise, we can both move along. It's not important enough for either of us to get our noses out of joint. [/QUOTE]
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