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<blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6634638" data-attributes="member: 6786202">My players have learnt to quite easily mitigate such DM tactics. Either by cunning use of full cover, utlizing small caves where Dragons don't do well, going Ethereal, or jumping into bags of holding/portable holes.I love it how DM's are like &quot;Well I'll just do this! Simple!&quot;. I don't know about your groups, but my players are smart and they have four brains to my one. The first such fight is usually hard, but if they survive they learn and adapt.Also depending on your party makeup, breaking concentration isn't that easy. I hit the Bard in my group with a finger of death for 68 damage last night. Guaranteed to ruin concentration right? Nope.First of all easily made his save (Resilient Con, Standing in Paladins aura). So that's now 34 damage, halved for his concentration check is a DC of 17. +7 con save plus paladin aura = +10, plus Bardic inspiration = easy save.Oh, and he had Bless on. And if he really needed to make it, inspiration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DaveDash, post: 6634638, member: 6786202"] My players have learnt to quite easily mitigate such DM tactics. Either by cunning use of full cover, utlizing small caves where Dragons don't do well, going Ethereal, or jumping into bags of holding/portable holes. I love it how DM's are like "Well I'll just do this! Simple!". I don't know about your groups, but my players are smart and they have four brains to my one. The first such fight is usually hard, but if they survive they learn and adapt. Also depending on your party makeup, breaking concentration isn't that easy. I hit the Bard in my group with a finger of death for 68 damage last night. Guaranteed to ruin concentration right? Nope. First of all easily made his save (Resilient Con, Standing in Paladins aura). So that's now 34 damage, halved for his concentration check is a DC of 17. +7 con save plus paladin aura = +10, plus Bardic inspiration = easy save. Oh, and he had Bless on. And if he really needed to make it, inspiration. [/QUOTE]

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