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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6635797" data-attributes="member: 5834">This was a long debate. When to buff? We spent quite a while discussing this. With the new lower durations in 5E, prebuffing can be a problem except long duration buffs like aid. Though a single dispel magic can completely strip a single target of all buffs. At the time we played, we did not know that dragons no longer had spellcasting. So it was a real conundrum. We had sworn off reading the MM because we wanted to be surprised.Without a rogue, we did not have a very efficient way to scout the dragon's cave. It was quite large and difficult terrain. So sending a forward scout to locate the dragon was dangerous. If he was caught alone by the dragon, the dragon would dispatch him and we're down a party member. If we give him fly, then he can scout and move, but our slot is active and if he dispels it he is dead. As you stated, dispel magic strips fly automatically. No roll unless it is cast at a higher level.The dragon was not in the immediate vicinity of the tunnel entrance. So we staggered the casters in back with the melee acting as our vanguard.Yep. You do understand damage metrics. AoOs do less damage than full attacks. Found this out. No one in our group feels like playing a focused str-based martial any longer. Too easily exploited a weakness due to the concentration mechanic and the lack of easily available magic items for flying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6635797, member: 5834"] This was a long debate. When to buff? We spent quite a while discussing this. With the new lower durations in 5E, prebuffing can be a problem except long duration buffs like [I]aid[/I]. Though a single dispel magic can completely strip a single target of all buffs. At the time we played, we did not know that dragons no longer had spellcasting. So it was a real conundrum. We had sworn off reading the MM because we wanted to be surprised. Without a rogue, we did not have a very efficient way to scout the dragon's cave. It was quite large and difficult terrain. So sending a forward scout to locate the dragon was dangerous. If he was caught alone by the dragon, the dragon would dispatch him and we're down a party member. If we give him fly, then he can scout and move, but our slot is active and if he dispels it he is dead. As you stated, dispel magic strips fly automatically. No roll unless it is cast at a higher level. The dragon was not in the immediate vicinity of the tunnel entrance. So we staggered the casters in back with the melee acting as our vanguard. Yep. You do understand damage metrics. AoOs do less damage than full attacks. Found this out. No one in our group feels like playing a focused str-based martial any longer. Too easily exploited a weakness due to the concentration mechanic and the lack of easily available magic items for flying. [/QUOTE]

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