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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6637038" data-attributes="member: 5834">Dave has explained that the lair is not set up so you can walk in easily. You are doing the red dragon combat. Because white dragon 20 foot radius frosty mist is definitely a factor.Why not breath on the owls and take pieces off the board? It could spot the owls 120 feet away when they see him. 60 foot cone will kill a lot of owls. The dragon has vastly superior senses and will pick up on them in advance. Where are the owls? Flying directly around the party? Or are they ahead of it scouting? Are you setting so the dragon can fly in, blast a cone from long range hitting a 60 foot radius area, then fly back out? The dragon even with equivalent darkvision is going to hear just about everyone and know their general area. A 60 foot diameter cone at the end is quite a large area.Why are you assuming the owls could spread out so far? Is this outside? I assumed this was in a dragon's lair inside an active volcano with varying terrain. You seem to be planning it as though it is an extremely large cave with simple dimensions that allow you to traverse it easily, spread out in a fashion that suits you, and the dragon is easy to hit and can't maneuver behind cover inbetween strafes. I don't get your assumptions. Did Dave tell you the lair was set up for easy travel? None of the dragon lairs I was in would you allow you to execute the tactics you want to execute. They are either too tight and there are tunnels the dragon is set up to breathe down or lots of difficult terrain with places for the dragon to hide behind between attacks. I'm not quite getting how you spread everything out in such an ideal fashion.As far as the question if it would breath on a lone owl, it might or at least rip it apart with a strafing attack causing all the skeletons to fire. Once it is hit, I think it's going to know what's going on immediately and adjust accordingly. As you said, your strategy isn't exactly a hard one to figure out. So an adult red dragon would probably realize what was going on and start to pick off owls piecemeal with the breath weapon if necessary knowing that eliminating the owls creates a visibility and mobility advantage for it. Though likely it knows people are in its lair very easy and might just hit and run as your guys are marching down the tunnel or cave to enters its lair. If it flew in, peeked around the tunnel corner, breathed as you're entering, that would solve a lot of its problems unless you're seriously staggering the movement of the creatures. If you do that, it could take things out piecemeal.Let's say it wanders off for a long time and starts watching for you leave from the entrance you came in. As soon as it hears someone coming back down the tunnel, it peaks in and breathes. It's a cat and mouse game. Once you set up your strategy, the dragon gets to play his. I would certainly enjoy letting you try this. I wouldn't let the lair be something you can wander into with a pack of skeletons and owls. That's quite a strange assumption on your part.</blockquote>

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