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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6637351" data-attributes="member: 53980">I said adult, not ancient. An adult dragon has been around for 1 to 8 centuries. And in that time, even if it did find a good spot, there's no guarantee that it wasn't forced out by meddling adventurers, behirs, giants, or other dragons. I'd expect an adult dragon to have a decent lair, but typically with room for improvement.I said they'd have minions. I simply stated that they'd be limited by what was at hand. If a dragon's very lucky, he might have a cult of dragon worshiping mages. If he's not, he might have to make do with kobolds or goblins.That assumes that they've been warned that adventurers are coming. Even with spies, if the PCs are effective, word may never reach the dragon. And presumably adventurers showing up on the dragon's doorstep isn't a daily occurrence. In my campaigns, it might happen once a century. A dragon is not going to be spending a typical day on red alert. It's going to be lazing about on its horde.If you're not prepared to fight a dragon then either retreat or hope the DM was feeling merciful when he designed the encounter. That or the DM is tired of the campaign and wants a TPK so he can start fresh.They're lazy apex predators. If they know you're coming you're in trouble. But if they don't, then odds are you'll find them with their treasure. Dragons aren't misers who bury their gold. They use it for a bed. They're not omniscient and they are lazy. Which means you can take them when they aren't ready for you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6637351, member: 53980"] I said adult, not ancient. An adult dragon has been around for 1 to 8 centuries. And in that time, even if it did find a good spot, there's no guarantee that it wasn't forced out by meddling adventurers, behirs, giants, or other dragons. I'd expect an adult dragon to have a decent lair, but typically with room for improvement. I said they'd have minions. I simply stated that they'd be limited by what was at hand. If a dragon's very lucky, he might have a cult of dragon worshiping mages. If he's not, he might have to make do with kobolds or goblins. That assumes that they've been warned that adventurers are coming. Even with spies, if the PCs are effective, word may never reach the dragon. And presumably adventurers showing up on the dragon's doorstep isn't a daily occurrence. In my campaigns, it might happen once a century. A dragon is not going to be spending a typical day on red alert. It's going to be lazing about on its horde. If you're not prepared to fight a dragon then either retreat or hope the DM was feeling merciful when he designed the encounter. That or the DM is tired of the campaign and wants a TPK so he can start fresh. They're lazy apex predators. If they know you're coming you're in trouble. But if they don't, then odds are you'll find them with their treasure. Dragons aren't misers who bury their gold. They use it for a bed. They're not omniscient and they are lazy. Which means you can take them when they aren't ready for you. [/QUOTE]

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