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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kor" data-source="post: 6721348" data-attributes="member: 26281">In an evil campaign I am creating, one of the character races I would like to offer is an ogre.  (Note, only 1 allowed in the party at a time and their class selections are limited).The hard part about this, is that I want to make this race to be available as a Level 1 selection, yet be somewhat balanced with the other classes.  I do want to keep the ogre's abilities still somewhat in line with the Monster Manual stats.  To do this in a reasonable way, the ogre player character will be considered a "young ogre".  My initial thoughts are this:Race Traits:Ability Adjustments: +3 Str, +2 Con, -2 IntDarkvision: 60'Size: Large with 5' reachSlow: An ogre suffers a -3 proficiency penalty. As the ogre increases in level, this penalty is reduced by 1, until the penalty is eliminated at level 4.Meaty: An ogre character starts with an additional 2d10 hit points.  These hit points only represent extra health and are not maximized at 1st level, nor are they considered Hit Dice.Strong: Ogre player characters can achieve a strength score of 22 instead of the normal limit of 20 for adventurers.Part of the design idea, is to think of the ogre as the equivalent of a 4th level character, and to apply penalties that reduce until he achieves level 4.  At level 4, a 4th level Ogre fighter should be roughly as tough as a normal ogre.Can you please weigh in with your initial thoughts on this?  Do you think that based on my rules above that a 4th level ogre fighter character would be equivalent to an Ogre from the Monster Manual?</blockquote>

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