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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6766144" data-attributes="member: 22779">Why wouldn't you continue to tank at high levels with a ranger?&nbsp; You have no armor restrictions and, at higher levels, stealth generally gets overshadowed by spells anyway.&nbsp; Why bother with Hide in Shadows when the 9th level wizard beside you can drop an invisibility spell on you that lasts 24 hours?&nbsp; Or, if you're a high level ranger, you've probably got things like magic elven chain or whatnot, and your AC is just as good.&nbsp; Heck, a decent Dex and a shield with leather armor is just as good as plate mail anyway.&nbsp; +2 leather, +2 shield, 18 Dex and you're already in the negatives for AC.&nbsp; Since your HP are equal to a fighter's, what does a fighter get that a ranger doesn't?&nbsp; By 9th level, I've got 10d8 HP vs the fighters 9d10.&nbsp; It's not like that's going to be much of a difference.&nbsp; The big disadvantage with rangers was that they needed more XP to go up levels than a fighter.&nbsp; But, again, the difference isn't all that much.&nbsp; At worst, you might be 1/2 a level behind (you gain level X before the fighter gains X+1).And, IIRC, in 1e, rangers got weapon specs same as a fighter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6766144, member: 22779"] Why wouldn't you continue to tank at high levels with a ranger? You have no armor restrictions and, at higher levels, stealth generally gets overshadowed by spells anyway. Why bother with Hide in Shadows when the 9th level wizard beside you can drop an invisibility spell on you that lasts 24 hours? Or, if you're a high level ranger, you've probably got things like magic elven chain or whatnot, and your AC is just as good. Heck, a decent Dex and a shield with leather armor is just as good as plate mail anyway. +2 leather, +2 shield, 18 Dex and you're already in the negatives for AC. Since your HP are equal to a fighter's, what does a fighter get that a ranger doesn't? By 9th level, I've got 10d8 HP vs the fighters 9d10. It's not like that's going to be much of a difference. The big disadvantage with rangers was that they needed more XP to go up levels than a fighter. But, again, the difference isn't all that much. At worst, you might be 1/2 a level behind (you gain level X before the fighter gains X+1). And, IIRC, in 1e, rangers got weapon specs same as a fighter. [/QUOTE]

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