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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7560902" data-attributes="member: 57494">I think this could be pretty close. I like the DC 20 athletics to go to x5 instead of requiring a &quot;run&quot; feat like 3E had.I disagree that it's not needed. I outlined situations where it could come up. Chase scenes could last minutes, and the current move+dash mechanic doesn't allow for real human speeds. Urban campaigns may be dealing with smaller equipment loads too, not everything is a dungeon crawl. Long distance treks are the thing of heroic stories, so a team pushing themselves at 6 mph for 8 hours is doable; the &quot;fast&quot; overland speed only fits for heavily encumbered parties.With the Mobile feat, 40 ft. movement is achievable. With a reasonable strength and expertise in athletics, a DC 20 athletics check is within reach. x4 movement on 40 ft. speed gets 160, x5 gets 200. We can probably say that Olympic Sprinters may be finding a way to squeeze another +5 or +10 movement rate. If a failed DC 20 athletics check also grants a level of fatigue, and if I made fatigue go away 1 point on a short rest, I could allow for these more. A runner can do 170 for a full minute by my findings, so that's the timer on x4 movement (160) before checks need to be made. So, here are my thoughts:Move: speed x1Dash: speed x1 (constitution save, possibly endurance check, every hour, DC 10+1 per check?)Run: action, cannot take any other action or bonus action, speed x4 (constitution save every minute, DC ?)Sprint: Athletics DC 20 for x5 speed.I do also think I might modify the Charger feat and let charge be a regular bonus action with the dash action, but tie in some penalties with it. I know in the last adventure I ran, there were times where someone did have to double move to an enemy and not get an action, and as 3E vets they found this weird.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 7560902, member: 57494"] I think this could be pretty close. I like the DC 20 athletics to go to x5 instead of requiring a "run" feat like 3E had. I disagree that it's not needed. I outlined situations where it could come up. Chase scenes could last minutes, and the current move+dash mechanic doesn't allow for real human speeds. Urban campaigns may be dealing with smaller equipment loads too, not everything is a dungeon crawl. Long distance treks are the thing of heroic stories, so a team pushing themselves at 6 mph for 8 hours is doable; the "fast" overland speed only fits for heavily encumbered parties. With the Mobile feat, 40 ft. movement is achievable. With a reasonable strength and expertise in athletics, a DC 20 athletics check is within reach. x4 movement on 40 ft. speed gets 160, x5 gets 200. We can probably say that Olympic Sprinters may be finding a way to squeeze another +5 or +10 movement rate. If a failed DC 20 athletics check also grants a level of fatigue, and if I made fatigue go away 1 point on a short rest, I could allow for these more. A runner can do 170 for a full minute by my findings, so that's the timer on x4 movement (160) before checks need to be made. So, here are my thoughts: Move: speed x1 Dash: speed x1 (constitution save, possibly endurance check, every hour, DC 10+1 per check?) Run: action, cannot take any other action or bonus action, speed x4 (constitution save every minute, DC ?) Sprint: Athletics DC 20 for x5 speed. I do also think I might modify the Charger feat and let charge be a regular bonus action with the dash action, but tie in some penalties with it. I know in the last adventure I ran, there were times where someone did have to double move to an enemy and not get an action, and as 3E vets they found this weird. [/QUOTE]

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