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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bugleyman" data-source="post: 6361412" data-attributes="member: 62949">I like much of 5E, but one thing about stat blocks bothers me.  Stat blocks only include the "Saves" line if the creature in question is proficient in one or more saves.  Further, when there *is* a saves line, only the specific saving throws with which the creature is proficient are included.  In theory, this is clean and consistent.  In practice, it makes looking up saves unnecessarily troublesome.  Consider this -- As a DM, in order to find a saving throw in a stat block:In D&D 3E/3.5E/Pathfinder/4E: 1.  Look at the saves line.  You're done.In in D&D 5: 1.  Check if there is there a saves line. If so, continue to step 2. If not, go to step 3. 2.  Check whether the desired save is present on the saves line. If so, you're done. If not, go to step 3. 3.  Go to the creature's ability scores and locate the appropriate stat modifier.  You're done.In the case of the 5E stat block, if the creature lacks a save entry, or the creature has a save entry, but the desired save is not present, then the DM must look two different places to find the save.This could easily be addressed by always including the save line, and always including all six saves.  If emphasis for proficient saves is needed, such saves could simply be written in bold.  For the low, low price of making some stat blocks one line longer, you eliminate the need for the DM to check two places for the same piece of information.  That seems like a an obviously worthwhile trade-off to me.Thoughts?</blockquote>

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