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<blockquote data-quote="ferratus" data-source="post: 4615001" data-attributes="member: 55966"><p>To expand on my "DM is the enemy bit" perhaps a story as to why things have changed is in order.</p><p></p><p>We have two 3rd level characters, a wizard and a fighter walking down a forest road. They fail their spot checks, and an orc charges out of the brush. It is equal distance to the fighter and the wizard. </p><p></p><p>The logical thing for the orc to do, I think we can both agree, is take out the squishy magic user before turning your attention to the fighter. He has spells that will disable you, but you can probably survive a blow from the fighter. However, since the orc is likely to one-hit kill the wizard, the DM would probably be seen as a <impolite phrase> rather than an adversary. In 4e though, a wizard is able to survive one or two blows from a monster.</p><p></p><p>If the wizard survives the first blow, the fighter will come to his aid. In 3e, it is competely up to how dickish the DM wants to be whether he finishes off the wizard or turns to deal with the fighter. The wizard would have done a full retreat in either edition, but the orc can charge and hit him anyway. It is only in 4e however, that the fighter can do something about it, by preventing the orc from moving and gaining free attacks if the orc doesn't direct his attacks at the fighter. </p><p></p><p>In 4e, I'm an enemy, but not an <impolite phrase> if I pursue the wizard, because the players have the tools to do something about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ferratus, post: 4615001, member: 55966"] To expand on my "DM is the enemy bit" perhaps a story as to why things have changed is in order. We have two 3rd level characters, a wizard and a fighter walking down a forest road. They fail their spot checks, and an orc charges out of the brush. It is equal distance to the fighter and the wizard. The logical thing for the orc to do, I think we can both agree, is take out the squishy magic user before turning your attention to the fighter. He has spells that will disable you, but you can probably survive a blow from the fighter. However, since the orc is likely to one-hit kill the wizard, the DM would probably be seen as a <impolite phrase> rather than an adversary. In 4e though, a wizard is able to survive one or two blows from a monster. If the wizard survives the first blow, the fighter will come to his aid. In 3e, it is competely up to how dickish the DM wants to be whether he finishes off the wizard or turns to deal with the fighter. The wizard would have done a full retreat in either edition, but the orc can charge and hit him anyway. It is only in 4e however, that the fighter can do something about it, by preventing the orc from moving and gaining free attacks if the orc doesn't direct his attacks at the fighter. In 4e, I'm an enemy, but not an <impolite phrase> if I pursue the wizard, because the players have the tools to do something about it. [/QUOTE]
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