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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9740691" data-attributes="member: 6790260">You said nobody could learn certain kinds of skills. Hence, there could not be schools, because...people don't learn them.Are you now saying there are schools Fighters can attend to become (say) sword-saints, where they can learn Aura Cutter or whatever once they've refined their skills enough so that (again, at high level) they can strike someone, with a sword, without throwing it, from 20 feet away, or the like?Because that, as I understood it, was the issue. You claimed they couldn't learn such things, and the conversation turned to one side having completely undescribed training while the other didn't.Not "instead". In addition. This is a common error regarding 4e.Fighters were the Defender who was best at personally doing damage. Pretty much bar none. You had to really, really work for any other Defender to reach what just a reasonably well-built, well-played basic Fighter could do.Also, Rogues were....also that? Like...sneak attack has been a thing for Rogues for a long time, so...they've kinda had that "we do big damage" thing for a fair amount of time. But Rogues were specifically the type of Striker--what in a monster would be called a "lurker"--that does, in fact, sneak around, and do a bunch of skill-y things. Rogues get more baseline skills than any other class. Bards get the same number of "pick what skills you want", but Rogues get two baked-in skills, while Bards only get one. Utility powers take care of the rest.</blockquote>

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