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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9873189" data-attributes="member: 7043270">Ok history lesson here:4E had really strong numbers in the first year. The reason it "failed" was because WotC wanted to have 100 million a year (after 50+ millions first year), and especially after they killed the PDF sales this was unreachable. But 4E was at its time still the most successfull RPG of all time.5Es release was WAY weaker, it was actually the weakest release of any wotc edition, only the PHB sold good, but D&D sales overall were awfull.Only after the release of Critical Role and then stranger things the sales went up. That was after 2 years, in these 2 years before it had sold a lot less than 4E (and 4E was killed/changed after way better sales after less than 2 full years), the only difference was they were not panicking like in 4E, because they did not had anymore the pressure of reaching 100 million from Hasbro, because with their just 29 million sales with 5e they where not even close.The sales of 5E in the second year was even soo bad, that WotC (re)released the PDFs of older D&D editions to boost overall D&D sales to even reach the 29 million of the first year of sales. (Compared to this 3.5 had 25 million sales at its end with no PDFs).Also Pathfinder never outsold D&D that was just bad misinformation spread around by paizo fans /4E anti fans. here more info: [MEDIA=reddit]4eDnD/comments/1pb9jzv[/MEDIA] (with links to sources).So what did not work out was not 4E, but the idea to force in 2 years having 100 million sales, especially after killing PDFs and then just killing the edition. The huge drop in 4E sales was actually when Mike Mearls took over and they tried to be again more similar to older Editions.Also 5.5 which again uses more 4E mechanics pretty much instantly outsold 5E in a single year.</blockquote>

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